First rejection

Amanda🔮🌻👩🏻‍💻 on March 25, 2019

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A couple things I think are worth noting after reading this:

  1. It’s never helpful to compare yourself to others...especially those you went to school with. I’ve been in the industry for a very long time and I’ve found little to no value in that. The lowest ranked person in my class manages an IT department for a multi-million dollar company. The top of the class never actually worked in IT. Last time I saw them they were working at a gas station. Getting into the industry can sometimes be tough. Everyone is looking for a senior developer at an entry level cost.

  2. Keep your head up. It can be very, very difficult to not feel jaded after a short amount of time. It is even more difficult to prevent that jaded-ness from bleeding into your personality. It will show immediately in future interviews.

  3. If they didn’t want you, you definitely didn’t want them. In soccer, we have this saying “the ball never lies”. It’s a bit of hocus locus, but the idea is that if you get a foul called that you shouldn’t have, you won’t score from it since it has it’s own karmic ecosystem. I’ve been denied positions that I really wanted. I held grudges for a long time. Years later I would meet people that worked there and find out that I would have ABSOLUTELY HATED IT.

It takes time, but you’ll find the right place. Keep working, keep building a portfolio, and keep your chin up. Things will always work their way out.

Best of luck!

 

Thank you so much for these encouraging words - really means a lot! I will keep on chugging along.

 

I see people from my bootcamp graduating and getting jobs and I’m still jobless.

It's worth remembering that while you see people celebrating every day that they got offers, there's a bias at play. People hardly ever post that they didn't get a job, so you only hear about the wins.

From what I've seen it usually takes 4-6 months after graduation (it took me just over 6 actually).

Getting to the final-stage interview just a few weeks after starting the job hunt is a huge win!

I'm sure you got great practice for the one "real" interview you will have, the one that will finally result in an offer.

Keep it up!

gif of a child saying "you got this"

 

Call me cynical because that's my middle name. Thank you for always supporting me.

 

I graduated a bootcamp one year ago. I got my first developer job very quickly in a very cool company, with a three steps interview process (but with no live coding !). After 4 months that company told me that they made a mistake hiring me and that I was not growing as fast as they expected... and said "Goodbye and good luck !".
I searched a job during 5 months. I had to face rejections every week (38 times, precisely). Sometimes it was very hard and I cried or just stared at the wall during hours, sometimes it was just another rejection to add to the list.
But during all this time, I practised a lot to be better at coding interviews, I cleared my explanations about what happened in the "cool company" and overall, I started side-projects that I could show and speak of during interviews. One day, I decided to turn my shameful list of rejections into something fun and positive : I created a small app to show statistics about my job hunting in a nice way with charts and other fun stuff.
Few days ago, I have been proposed a job in a company which hires juniors and makes them grow. During the interview, I spoke of my side projects with enthusiasm. They told me that they appreciated it a lot.

You're totally right, Amanda, rejection sucks. And it hurts too, sometimes a lot, sometimes more than we expected. But don't let rejection win. Remember why you're here and you chose to be a developer, why you were so enthusiast when you started, and it will give you the energy to keep on...

You'll do it. No doubt about that !

 

I got offered a team lead job yesterday and in the middle of the night it suddenly dawned on me that breaking my lease would cost $10,000 and I don't think I can afford to make the move to accept this job. I was upset and angry and crying and throwing things at the same time...I had all my expectations and visions of the future built around getting this role. I wrote some code and felt better. Still have no idea what I am going to do, but there's hope out there!

 

Wow that is a LOT of money. Glad you took your time with the decision rather than just jumping on it while it's tempting I know there is another role for you out there. You keep going Scott, you're killing this!

 

Thank you for the positivity, I really needed that today! You have a beautiful attitude and I predict that it is going to present many exciting and enjoyable opportunities in your future!

 

Scott, before you give up entirely, can you not go to the lease-holder and ask the question? I'd do that first. You just never know. I was renting in my city before I bought my house, and decided to break my lease just 5 months in. Now, granted, small realtor I was renting from and my situation may be a bit different, but I got out of my lease AND they gave me back my full deposit (a month's rent). My point is, you just never know. Good luck, regardless!

 

You're absolutely right, I have nothing to lose by asking. Got an interview about a remote position with same salary though...so we shall see. I was excited about the old job because I miss a lot of my coworkers and friends from that city, but maybe it wasn't meant to be. It's been a rough day at work, I am going to take a mental health night before I do anything reckless and try to see what I can negotiate tomorrow.

PROTIP: DC is not a fun place to be a developer.

 

Hi Amanda,

Your story is quite similar to mine. After reading your story it felt a flashback to me. When I was in college, all my friends were getting jobs and I was only getting rejected everywhere. But I kept telling myself that God has some special plan for me. And guess what, I was right. Today I am working in a well reputed MNC. The only advice I can share with you is: Get up every morning with a smile on your face and give your best shot. You will surely get placed soon, don't worry! :)

 

I have always found that interviewing is a skill in itself.

I'm not surprised that you didn't get the role if this was your first experience (live coding), especially live coding! I have seen some great people fail simply because they were out of practice or they were nervous or they simply misunderstood the question.

Like most other skills practice is key. You'll nail the live coding then fail on another hurdle, then you'll get better at that and so on until one day the stars will align and both you and the company will have a good experience, and then it will probably be 50/50 anyway.

Interviewing is something you are going to have to practice, not passing an interview doesn't mean you never will, its common in some companies for people to try multiple times before succeeding.

The facts are that most of what happens is out of your control.

The only thing you can guarantee from an interview is a little more experience interviewing.

It won't take long. There will be lots of rejection. Just remember they aren't rejecting you, only you right now.

If you can, ask for detailed feedback.

And if you can spare the time, don't just apply here or there where you think you will be a good fit, apply everywhere. Like any other industry applying for a job is quite often just a numbers game.

Good luck in the search! You'll do great :)

 
 

This was an important share - thanks so much. We're all rooting for you!

 

I believe we should expect to have dozens of rejections. Not seek for them, but expect them as okay.

I've send 25 job requests to have only one approval. That is 24 rejections.

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