In the Java world, one of the first question developers encounter is "should I use Grade or Maven as build tool?". It's a fundamental decision whic...
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Can you please be more specific about
Their website sucks IMHO,? file in a jira issue ? Suggest the issues you see or even greater would be to offer a pull request?The next part:
it could welcome YAML as more compact alternative format,while YAML has a lot of disadvantages compared to XML ...yes I know XML is a bit verbose...in Maven 4 there is done a lot of foundation work to improve the format later on...First off, thanks for the feedback. I'm glad to see someone caring about maven.
Well, IMHO it should start with a getting started section, explaining how a basic pom.xml looks like and building it with the command line. That would be a fair introduction. On the other hand, their front page contains either advanced or useless stuff. Just by looking at it, I think most people would go away. Putting something like this, (not trivial to find) on the front page would have been much more useful IMHO. Besides the front page with a tutorial, I'd offer 4 sections: "pom.xml reference", "CLI reference", "Plugins", "Advanced" and "Community / contributing". The current left menu is cluttered while not containing what you look for.
Well, that is the next problem. Nowadays everybody has GitHub accounts. Just by requiring people to create an account and use another ticketing system, it looses feedback and contributions. You don't want to create accounts for every lib or tool you use.
While YAML is not perfect, I think a lot of users would welcome a more lightweight way of wrting the configs
The last thing I'd like to add is that some things are also uselessly difficult to do, like packaging a fat/executable jar. Some comfort stuff like a goal to check for CVEs or update all dependency versions should also be included by default.
There is polyglot-maven project that allows you to write build scripts in different languages. including Yaml
Yeah, I noticed that too. But it requires you to explicitly search for it, to download, install and configure the plugin. Basically, it's defying the purpose of making your life easier. Whether the plugin works properly and how your dev tools integrate it is another matter.
You can effectively implement your entire CD pipeline with Gradle. Maven, at least in my experience, is much more centered around just the build process (compile the code, run tests, bundle up your JAR/WAR).
In every team I've worked on so far, there is some external CD pipeline like Jenkins, GitHub Actions, Gitlab Pipelines, or something else that teams use to actually deploy software. Dedicated CD pipeline tools are very effective at managing and visualizing pipelines and stages, so the extra complexity of Gradle that enables it's fancy features just aren't a compelling selling point. So my opinion on Gradle vs Maven comes down to "doesn't really matter, just give me a command that can compile my code and run unit tests".
Totally agree with you
Oh, man! Same for me. When I see pom.xml - I have no idea what is going on.
Untill now I thought this is my problem, becouse I don't know Maven. But this artice helps me clearly understand that it's completele Maven's fault!
Huh?