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That's because it barely outputs any HTML at all in the majority of use cases. hence why ALL the code fiddles if you ran the bloody page with scripting disabled, has ZERO page content whatsoever.

Instead it's using JavaScript to vomit up JavaScript to kind-of TRY and put together broken inaccessible incomplete markup client side, instead of creating useful well written markup SERVER-SIDE.

Hence why for example this gem of "I cans haz teh intarwebs"

codesandbox.io/s/white-river-tl7fs

Is wasting on the output side 37k of markup on what should be a FORM, H1, five LABEL, five INPUT, a BUTTON, and MAYBE an extra DIV. That's not even 2k of HTML's flipping job!

That they then have the markup applied by vomiting it together innerHTML style instead of ACTUALLY using the DOM, have a DIV where there should be a FIELDSET, are wasting a INPUT to do BUTTON's job like it's still 1997, have ZERO semantic relationship between the LABEL and the INPUT because they omitted the ID's on the INPUT, etc, etc... Basically it takes 400 extra bytes to make 100% certain it deploys client-side 15 times the markup needed.

Nothing like 36k of accessibility violations with zero graceful degradation doing 2k of HTML's job. And for what? So you can slop it together with 2.4k of scripting instead of just manning up and using HTML properly?

Colour me unimpressed... and it's nonsense like this I've spent the past decade cleaning up after court case after court case, client after client... because the moment you pull derpy coding stunts like this, is the moment you risk ending up like Dominos. Or that Portuguese bank... or the dozens of smaller banks, public utility companies, health clinics, and so forth that make up the bulk of my clientele.

I don't care how 'resusable" it is when it's spitting out 15 times the code needed client side, making you write more code server-side than you need, that relies on even more library code, that results in websites that don't gracefully degrade telling large swaths of potential users to go suck an egg.

Maybe if people stopped using five to twenty times the code needed to do the job BEFORE we even include the size of these derpy frameworks into the equation, they would see how mind-numbingly STUPID these systems are.

But again, the people who MAKE these systems with every example make it plainly obvious they don't know enough about HTML or CSS to be working on the front-end, much less making systems that sucker in all the rubes and nubes. "For people who know nothing about websites, BY people who know nothing about websites" is not a recipe for success.