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      <title>For the record</title>
      <dc:creator>Wilko van der Veen</dc:creator>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2023 07:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;As most C# developers know, since language version 9.0 on there is support for &lt;a href="https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/language-reference/builtin-types/record"&gt;records&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The language is constantly changing, which is, kind of alright, I guess. The downside of this, is that I need to translate all 'the dialects' in my head. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The documentation for records in C# state the following:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When you declare a primary constructor on a record, the compiler generates public properties for the primary constructor parameters. The primary constructor parameters to a record are referred to as positional parameters. The compiler creates positional properties that mirror the primary constructor or positional parameters. The compiler doesn't synthesize properties for primary constructor parameters on types that don't have the record modifier.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For example:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;pre class="highlight csharp"&gt;&lt;code&gt;&lt;span class="k"&gt;public&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="n"&gt;record&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="nf"&gt;Person&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;(&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="kt"&gt;string&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="n"&gt;FirstName&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="kt"&gt;string&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="n"&gt;LastName&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;);&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;translates to something like this:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;div class="highlight js-code-highlight"&gt;
&lt;pre class="highlight csharp"&gt;&lt;code&gt;&lt;span class="k"&gt;public&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="k"&gt;class&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="nc"&gt;Person&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="p"&gt;:&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="n"&gt;IEquatable&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="n"&gt;Person&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span class="p"&gt;{&lt;/span&gt;
    &lt;span class="k"&gt;public&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="kt"&gt;string&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="n"&gt;FirstName&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="p"&gt;{&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="k"&gt;get&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="n"&gt;init&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;;}&lt;/span&gt;
    &lt;span class="k"&gt;public&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="kt"&gt;string&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="n"&gt;LastName&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="p"&gt;{&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="k"&gt;get&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="n"&gt;init&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;;}&lt;/span&gt;

    &lt;span class="k"&gt;public&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="nf"&gt;Person&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;(&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="kt"&gt;string&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="n"&gt;firstName&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="kt"&gt;string&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="n"&gt;lastName&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;
    &lt;span class="p"&gt;{&lt;/span&gt;
        &lt;span class="n"&gt;FirstName&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="p"&gt;=&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="n"&gt;firstName&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;;&lt;/span&gt;
        &lt;span class="n"&gt;LastName&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="p"&gt;=&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="n"&gt;lastName&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;;&lt;/span&gt;
    &lt;span class="p"&gt;}&lt;/span&gt;

    &lt;span class="k"&gt;public&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="k"&gt;override&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="kt"&gt;bool&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="nf"&gt;Equals&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;(&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="kt"&gt;object&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="n"&gt;obj&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;
    &lt;span class="p"&gt;{&lt;/span&gt;
        &lt;span class="k"&gt;return&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="k"&gt;this&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="nf"&gt;Equals&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;(&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="n"&gt;obj&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="k"&gt;as&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="n"&gt;Person&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;);&lt;/span&gt;
    &lt;span class="p"&gt;}&lt;/span&gt;

    &lt;span class="k"&gt;public&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="kt"&gt;bool&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="nf"&gt;Equals&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;(&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="n"&gt;Person&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="n"&gt;other&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;
    &lt;span class="p"&gt;{&lt;/span&gt;
        &lt;span class="k"&gt;if&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="p"&gt;(&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="n"&gt;other&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="p"&gt;==&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="k"&gt;null&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;
            &lt;span class="k"&gt;return&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="k"&gt;false&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;;&lt;/span&gt;

        &lt;span class="k"&gt;return&lt;/span&gt; 
            &lt;span class="p"&gt;(&lt;/span&gt;
                &lt;span class="kt"&gt;object&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="nf"&gt;ReferenceEquals&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;(&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="k"&gt;this&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="n"&gt;FirstName&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="n"&gt;other&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="n"&gt;FirstName&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;)&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="p"&gt;||&lt;/span&gt;
                &lt;span class="k"&gt;this&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="n"&gt;FirstName&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="p"&gt;!=&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="k"&gt;null&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="p"&gt;&amp;amp;&amp;amp;&lt;/span&gt;
                &lt;span class="k"&gt;this&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="n"&gt;FirstName&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="nf"&gt;Equals&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;(&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="n"&gt;other&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="n"&gt;FirstName&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;
            &lt;span class="p"&gt;)&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="p"&gt;&amp;amp;&amp;amp;&lt;/span&gt;
            &lt;span class="p"&gt;(&lt;/span&gt;
                &lt;span class="kt"&gt;object&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="nf"&gt;ReferenceEquals&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;(&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="k"&gt;this&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="n"&gt;LastName&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="n"&gt;other&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="n"&gt;LastName&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;)&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="p"&gt;||&lt;/span&gt;
                &lt;span class="k"&gt;this&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="n"&gt;LastName&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="p"&gt;!=&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="k"&gt;null&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="p"&gt;&amp;amp;&amp;amp;&lt;/span&gt;
                &lt;span class="k"&gt;this&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="n"&gt;LastName&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="nf"&gt;Equals&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;(&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="n"&gt;other&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="n"&gt;LastName&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="p"&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;
            &lt;span class="p"&gt;);&lt;/span&gt;
    &lt;span class="p"&gt;}&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;span class="p"&gt;}&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;So in fact the records are still classes, but the syntax is different. So in my head I need to translate the structure of a record to the 'old school' classes&lt;br&gt;
So I need to know more than when I read the 'generated' code, which I can understand immediately.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It is like we all speak English but all different dialects, which in my case costs me extra effort to understand what someone is saying when I first need to translate, for example Welsh to English before I understand what someone is saying. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It seems that Microsoft (or the community) is moving more and more to having to know a lot instead of having to read the code to understand what is happening, because the level of abstraction is getting higher.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Using records, on the other hand, the &lt;em&gt;value equality&lt;/em&gt; methods you do not have to implement yourself, because the compiler generates these methods for you. But again, you need to know what methods are being generated to understand how value comparison for records work, but doing value comparison is hard enough by itself.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To solve the above issue, source generators could be used to translate records to classes. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What do you think, are records a good trade-off for writing less code and needing to know a bit more about how for example comparison of property values are done for records?&lt;/p&gt;

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