re: Being a Female Programmer: How is it For You? VIEW POST

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Hey Ilona, nice reading!

Salary's rate. Women consistently make less than men because they tend to participate in less negotiation.

It really puzzles me that in 2019 there is still salary difference between women and men for the same roles.

Even women in the dev team are still rare, despite that there are many women in other tech job positions (most of my PMs have been women), UX specialists, designers, QAs, business analysts and so on. So there are more women in the team.

I can confirm this. The problem in our industry (Design) is that there are still very few women in roles like creative directors, and for some reason they need to work even harder to get there. It's a real shame such distinctions, because there are women very capable and they deserve being treated as the proffesionals they are, not "different" because they are women.

Thank you for your article! really enjoyed it.

 

Thank you for reading πŸ™Totally agree with your comment!

 

Mind you, in over a decade, I still haven't been able to land a job coding at all, but for jobs overall where I'm currently living and working, the trend is that most of the men get raises without having to negotiate at all. Women, on the other hand, don't get raises without negotiation, but stand a rather high chance of getting fired if they so much as mention wishing they'd get paid more. Trying to negotiate higher pay is a great way to find yourself without any pay at all.

The assumption is that women are expected to get married early on, the men are to support the family financially, and the woman's job is to have another baby every year or so, raise the children, care for the husband's elderly parents, do the shopping, cook meals, and clean the house. If a woman works, it's assumed she's somehow defective as a human being (since she couldn't get a man to marry her), that she is an insult to her family for not caring for them at home, or that she's merely looking for 'play money' she can spend getting her kids on extra rides at Disneyland.

The tech we have at work might be in the 1990's, but the gender role assumptions are straight out of the 1800's. But again, this is about jobs in general here. We have one STEM job in the whole valley, and it's for the couple days a week the local satellite clinic and gym have any medical professionals in the area.

I may live in a 'first world' country, but we have plenty of near-third-world pockets. It's not all bad, though. We've had a new business open up in town, and it owned by a bunch of younger guys from the Balkans, which in turn is changing this place from an unofficial retirement community to a place where younger people are starting to think about moving to. I'm hoping this means a change in the culture, especially in terms of gender roles. After all, I experienced far less gender inequality during the 7 months I was in Kosovo.

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