My thoughts exactly. I've been writing code for too damn long to be manually formatting it these days. I can only imagine the amount of total hours wasted when I used to have to do this in the past.
I see it akin to not using a linter. Sure, I can do it without one, but having it allows me to free up my mental state for more complex tasks.
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Whatever floats your boats guys.
It's always personal preference in the end.
Copy/pasting snippets is obviously a time saver, but i think we all fall prey to having random things in our code we forgot about because we copy/pasted something and didn't take the time to review it properly, not because we suck at it, but because we were in a hurry, got sidetracked, pulled away, distracted, or who knows what else and since it "worked" when we got back, we never want back to fully clean it up, since it worked.
Now depending on what kinda coding/programming you guys do, i understand the "focusing on more complex tasks", but really, i've been doing this 16 years myself and in web dev there are few things that i would call "complex tasks".
Now, game dev, phooey, that's nothing BUT complex tasks lol.
You don’t copy and paste snippets. You press a key and you get a snippets with the fields which you can change so you need to know what the snippet does before you use it. I’m not talking about copy and pasting random code from the Internet. That certainly isn’t something you should do.
I don’t know what exactly you did but people deal with complex tasks on the web too so I wouldn’t underestimate the job of web developers.
Web Dev full-stack [LAMP] since 2005, but much heavier on the JS stuff these days.
Jack of all Stacks, Master of some.
Always looking to learn new things. Always glad to help out, just ask.
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B.S. in Biochemistry 2004, M.S. in Computer Information Systems 2007
I do web dev for a living, 16 years of it, 99% of what we do is easy, once you get good enough at it. Every now and the a serious problem presents itself that takes more than a day to solve.
I don't underestimate what we do, working for an agency I see messed up code almost every day and fix bugs for the most part. I'm essentially a firefighter versus a builder. Most bugs are basic mistakes people make when tired or rushed.
As I said, I'm not sure what exactly you're doing but I was not thinking just about messed up code. When you're working with the microservice architecture for example you can run into serious issues pretty quickly because of the complexity involved (like race conditions). Those are human mistakes but same human mistakes happen to other developers. But I can agree that on average, web development is easier than other branches (which still doesn't make doing everything manually justified if you ask me).
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My thoughts exactly. I've been writing code for too damn long to be manually formatting it these days. I can only imagine the amount of total hours wasted when I used to have to do this in the past.
I see it akin to not using a linter. Sure, I can do it without one, but having it allows me to free up my mental state for more complex tasks.
Whatever floats your boats guys.
It's always personal preference in the end.
Copy/pasting snippets is obviously a time saver, but i think we all fall prey to having random things in our code we forgot about because we copy/pasted something and didn't take the time to review it properly, not because we suck at it, but because we were in a hurry, got sidetracked, pulled away, distracted, or who knows what else and since it "worked" when we got back, we never want back to fully clean it up, since it worked.
Now depending on what kinda coding/programming you guys do, i understand the "focusing on more complex tasks", but really, i've been doing this 16 years myself and in web dev there are few things that i would call "complex tasks".
Now, game dev, phooey, that's nothing BUT complex tasks lol.
You don’t copy and paste snippets. You press a key and you get a snippets with the fields which you can change so you need to know what the snippet does before you use it. I’m not talking about copy and pasting random code from the Internet. That certainly isn’t something you should do.
I don’t know what exactly you did but people deal with complex tasks on the web too so I wouldn’t underestimate the job of web developers.
I do web dev for a living, 16 years of it, 99% of what we do is easy, once you get good enough at it. Every now and the a serious problem presents itself that takes more than a day to solve.
I don't underestimate what we do, working for an agency I see messed up code almost every day and fix bugs for the most part. I'm essentially a firefighter versus a builder. Most bugs are basic mistakes people make when tired or rushed.
As I said, I'm not sure what exactly you're doing but I was not thinking just about messed up code. When you're working with the microservice architecture for example you can run into serious issues pretty quickly because of the complexity involved (like race conditions). Those are human mistakes but same human mistakes happen to other developers. But I can agree that on average, web development is easier than other branches (which still doesn't make doing everything manually justified if you ask me).