Coding bootcamp grads can't get jobs

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Coding Bootcamps (6 Part Series)

1) Coding bootcamps β€” what are they, are they worth the cost? 2) 5 Reasons why you SHOULD go to a coding bootcamp 3 ... 4 3) 5 Reasons why you should NOT go to a coding bootcamp 4) For those wanting to give up (I almost dropped out of Coding Bootcamp) 5) Coding Bootcamp - Things I wish I knew before going 6) Coding bootcamp grads can't get jobs

Coding bootcamps - the fast track to success, or a misleading marketing scheme?

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Why can't Coding Bootcamp Grads find Jobs?

There are a number of reasons why coding bootcamp grads can't find jobs.

The self-taught / coding bootcamp route is arguably harder to get your first work experience compared to the path of getting a traditional CS degree.

In the video above, I break down the why coding bootcamp grads can't get jobs, what's in their control in the job search, and what's out of their control. Also, I talk about career advice and job search tips!

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Good stuff. I can give a perspective on the job prospects for jobs for bootcamp grads in the mid-west. They are pretty good, πŸ˜€. Sorry to hear that it seems so much harder in SF. The cost of living is affordable, and there are some solid coding bootcamps in the region with great reputations and employer networks!

Don't get me wrong, you will find old school mindsets and resistance. But many people here admire willingness to learn and work hard. I wouldn't judge a city's job market based on whether or not it's "known for tech". If there is business being done there, there are Dev jobs and not enough devs to fill them. If anyone is interested or has questions, please let me know.

Cheers.

 

I would love more info on bootcamps and where to get started

 

Here's a playlist on everything you need to know regarding bootcamps!

youtube.com/playlist?list=PLu-B84c...

I'm curious would completion of free code camp be a good start. I do have some slight experience with hardware programming from some of my courses while studying computer engineering.

If you can self-structure all of your studying, FCC had literally all / more content than the bootcamp I went to (and probably more than most if not all bootcamps). It's a great option. The only tricky thing is not having instructors to bounce ideas around with when you get stuck, but you do have the online community

Most of the better ones require u to take a free online course before they accept u. Also some are tuition free until you get a job. Then its taken out of ur salary. But if u dont find a job u dont have to pay them at all. I wld try one of those schools at least u know you'll get a job instead of wasting $15,000 for 3 to 6 to at most a year program.

I think the income sharing model is a great way to balance risk on both sides! That being said, nothing is guaranteed. If you don't put in the work, you won't get a job haha

I'm curious would it be enough to land a job just starting out with the java portion then proceeding with the other modules?.

If you're going for purely frontend role, nailing the JavaScript fundamentals, learning React, git/command line/github, and some HTML / CSS should suffice as the absolute minimum. But ideally you want at least some exposure building full stack apps. The core of your learning should be based around the JavaScript fundamentals

Full stack would be the goal. I just don't want to try and deep dive in one subject.

For sure! I would totally go for it if you can self-structure everything!

I felt like the knowledge I gained from Free Code Camp was a huge help when I went to the Software Guild (thesoftwareguild.com/).

Nice! Did you do the online option, or the on campus one?

 

Start at coursereport.com/schools
Not sure where you are, but I highly recommend The Software Guild if there is one near you.
thesoftwareguild.com/

 

epicodus is a great resource, with a solid in-person program.

 

That's amazing! The nice thing about tech is that it's becoming more and more location independent! SF is an interesting market - since bootcamps hit here first, I think it became way more saturated in the past few years

 
 

Chicago is a great town for finding work after a boot camp. I personally know people who found work directly out of a camp. All working with React.

That's amazing! React is definitely hot right now!

 

Yeah but devloper jobs for how long and what skill level. See there is a glut of low level junior programmers and not enough entry y level jobs. Where they dont have enough people to fill n
jobs is middle or upper level jobs that require 5+ years experience
and proficiency in about 10 different programming languages. Besides who wants to live in the middlw of nowhere in some hick town in Nebraska?

 

The trick for me was to find a unicorn bootcamp that helped with finding a job after graduation. Codeup in San Antonio, TX guarantees getting you placed within 6 months of graduation or they refund 100% of your tuition. Over half of my cohort was hired before graduation. 0% of us have contract or intern positions. We were all hired as full time employees with comparable wages for the cities we moved to. If candidates are willing to move, San Antonio tech community needs help growing and the cost of living is significantly less than in California. Just food for thought.

 

That's amazing! I think there are many opportunities still for bootcamps, especially in rapidly expanding / underserved markets

 

It's a no brainer. Supply n demand. They cant get jobs because there are too many of them. Before 2014 I think it was faifly easy to get jobs b/c coding boot camps weren't as well known. Now seems like every underachieving loser that dropped out of college goes to a coding boot camp. Then they produce a video about how hard you have to work and how it changed their lives. Life is wonderful! Yay for them!!

 

The negative tone in this comment really doesn't contribute to any meaningful discussion - please consider writing meaningful comments that actually contribute to a discussion

 

As a successfully employed bootcamp grad in the San Diego area myself, all I can say is that it takes a lot of work, and effort, but there are definitely inroads for those who persevere! I started assistant teaching (for free) at my bootcamp directly after graduation. Then after two cycles they allowed me to teach the qualifier course (for pay! Not a lot.. but I was making money!) And eventually taught through the entire course. Then I was able to land a position with an associated contracting company for about 6 months worth of contracts before landing a full time salaried gig at blossoming start-up as a Front End Engineer.

It may not be as easy as the degree route, but it is possible and I'm living proof! FWIW YMMV

If you're in the greater San Diego area, check out softstackfactory.com/

 

That's amazing! Congrats - it's great that these alternative options exist for those who want to pursue them!

 

I thought this video was very well done and wanted to expand on it from an interviewer's perspective in an audio recording.

 

This is great! Thank you for coming at it from a different viewpoint - totally makes sense on the realism part out of the top 20 tech companies. Great tip on the projects too. I completely agree with you regarding the drive of the individual equating to success

 

Does anyone have any info on the probability of finding work after a bootcamp in Pittsburgh, Pa?

 

Look up Tech Elevator. Great curriculum and phenomenal job search support. I graduated here in Columbus on the 16th and just finished my first day on the job today!

 

That's amazing! Congrat - I think having job search support definitely helps with success rates of bootcamps!

 

I know Pittsburgh has a rising startup / tech scene, definitely check the local job boards and see what technologies are in demand!

 
 
 
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