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rhymes

Ah ah "the year of linux on the desktop", where have I heard that already :D ?

In the meantime Linux won on the servers and on the phones

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Chad Windham

"They should start selling OSX to other hardware makers"

I'm sure you know this, but OSX is heavily tied to apple hardware. When you make a "hackintosh" you basically wind up having something that isn't as useful as a linux machine... At least that's the word on the street, from people that have done it. If you run OSX on anything other than apple hardware, you lose most of the benefits. Heck, even windows is releasing (or has released?) a linux OS for IoT stuff...

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Casey Hendley • Edited

"They should start selling OSX to other hardware makers :P"

Because that worked out sooooo well in the 90s when Apple nearly went out of business ... (and maybe that was your point, I didn't detect the necessary level of sarcasm if that was the case ;) )

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tux0r

Apple sold OSX to other hardware makers in the 90s?

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Ben Halpern

"The Scully years". As Microsoft took off, Apple tried a lot of stuff to keep up and most of it failed big time.

Apple went in the other direction with Jobs + iMac, iPod, etc. and eventually shot to 1 trillion.

As much as it sucks for us sometimes, it's worked like magic for them.

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rhymes

Yeah, this hackintosh thing seems to be cool but I feel like it's way better to buy any equivalent laptop to a Macbook Pro whatever model and put Linux on it :-)

I read the tutorial and a troubleshooting guide and it seems you can't use USB 3 properly with High Sierra nor you can use APFS (well, this might be fine by me :D) nor you can use SSD TRIM settings. Also you have to get lucky not to get a specific combination of GPUs and audio controllers otherwise you need patches that might or might not work.

Definitely too much hassle :-D

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rhymes • Edited

No it wasn't sarcasm at that level. I wasn't secretly rooting for Apple demise. I think it was a completely different era though. A completely different Apple with a market capitalization that was way lower than it is now.

There's probably zero interest for them to do it but it might work in theory. I'm sure that on paper they could go to a few hardware makers, sign deals for a very few models with top of the line specs and work in tandem to create such laptops but there's no apparent reason, it's a lot of work with a very unsure outcome, they have more cash than a few nations on earth so they don't need to do it and also their focus has shifted to mobile devices, which is one of the reasons why we're complaining about the diminished quality of their computers :D

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Casey Hendley

Apple licensed Mac OS to "clone" manufacturers in the 90s, yes. They haven't done this with OS X, but it's not called that anymore, either. It's just "macOS" now (for a couple years, I think). Point being, that Apple lost revenue, it did not reinvigorate them, and people were associating Apple's brand with cheap hardware.

Leaving all the arguments about the virtues of free software to one side, Apple is a "closed shop", and that's why they've become the first trillion dollar company. They don't stand to gain anything by licensing macOS to third parties, as much as we might wish it so.

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Casey Hendley

I would have no issues with using Linux for work, other than the fact that I work for a very large "Microsoft shop" even though I almost never touch Windows in any capacity, and work almost entirely with Linux.

But the rest of the company does not, so I am forced to use a platform that runs Microsoft Office (mainly because Skype for Business is required), and at least macOS is UNIX.

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tux0r

Learned another thing today. Thank you!

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tux0r

at least macOS is UNIX.

One could argue about that. Sure, macOS is certified to be allowed to wear the UNIX trademark like it was a badge, but for (us) purists, the only Unices left are AIX, HP-UX and Solaris - with Solaris, sadly, having the brightest future.

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Carsten Gehling

I thought the *BSD's counted as true Unix as well?

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tux0r • Edited

Not anymore. They were forced to remove the last bit of original Unix code around 1992. Their degree of POSIX compatibility is varying.