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tux0r

Most people simply bump into malware the normal way (bad links, worms, ...), and these tools do an excellent job at protecting against those.

Most people should be taught to not click on everything that looks like a link. Problem solved. ;-)

I can't deny you to install dangerous software for more "theoretical protection". I just wanted to remind you that a good security concept can't be replaced by software. Also remember that modern malware is usually out in the wild for days before those scanners detect it.

I warmly recommend intrusion prevention systems instead. Less resources, more detection. :-)

There is a reason those tools are getting out of fashion

Fashion is a weak argument in technology. Nobody should replace a working system because of fashion. However, all of your numbered advantages are possible with XMPP as well.

If you don't trust their Electron clients, don't use them. They web based clients as well.

I thought we were talking about security. If a software is a risk because of Javascript, using a web version of it makes no sense.

(On mobile, sorry for the shortness.)

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Janne "Lietu" Enberg Author

However, all of your numbered advantages are possible with XMPP as well.

There's always options, but just try to get your marketing guys, business people, CEO, and external partners to use your XMPP over the convenient Slack/Microsoft Teams/Discord installation.

It might work for you, but it's unlikely to go well for most.

If a software is a risk because of Javascript, using a web version of it makes no sense.

So now you're against using the web. Good luck with that.

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tux0r

try to get your marketing guys, business people, CEO, and external partners to use your XMPP

I did once. It was fine. Have you actually tried it?

you're against using the web.

I'm against pressing anything into the web. The web is (broken, but) fine for what it wants to be. But your web browser is a glorified document viewer, not a decent hardware emulator. Just because something is possible and beginners, usually learning JavaScript :-), are able to solve (already solved) "problems" with it, there is still a big chance that it is not the best solution.

All I can do is point out the flaws and the alternatives. If the audience still decides to stick with their adoption, nothing's wrong with it. But nobody will think about the options if they only know one anyway.