Jason, thank you so much for your brief reply. It's nice and pleasent to have a talk with you.
See, the problem in perspective. I respect Ben and Jess and all others. But they're not wkrking hard, they're pretty much having fun. You can see it from as what the site act like what it looks like, what and how people behave and work here.
Stackoverflow was a technical challange for them, they didn't want to lead people.
The nice things did not co-exist from the root. People who disbehave disbehaved there from the very beginning.
Every work is hard, but it's a mere how you look at it. You might be washing toilet,dishes,windows,cars and you will be enjoying. The day you stop beliving in the good and start complaining to yourself, you kill your inner child and start harming others. It's not a must way of going through, but as ceo/as dish washer, at both you'll have to be aware you need to be naive and believing, cause this what life is for.
Look how it all begin in sof, they wanted war. They got it. The day they want to wake up, they can wipe all the dirt out.
You forget, Spolsky and Atwood were having fun too. They didn't want war, they wanted a healthy, fun, vibrant community. But they failed to recognize that if they automatically linked "smart" and "powerful" in this industry, they'd wind up with all the antisocial egotists having the moderator tools. They forgot everything Weinberg ever taught us!
You can have fun, but that doesn't nullify the fact you're still doing hard work. It's not a matter of complaining. Coding is hard, but I love it. Making a decent apple pie is hard, but I love it (just made one this afternoon). To pretend it's easy doesn't help anyone. Everything is easy to the person who isn't doing it.
I think @ben
would say that, yes, running DEV is hard work. Nothing saying it isn't fun most of the time.
Yeah, perhaps easy is not the right word combination. But having fun on a hard work is relieving.
I'll need to learn what you said in your first part, I'm totally off of that. But thank you for a nice talk. :)
Thank you too!
Civility. It's one of the things that makes DEV such a darn nice place!
Yeah. Just imagine how the above discussion would end if it were happening on SO. :-D :-O :-X
With a galiotine XD
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