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# Discussion on: A guide to Flow states for programmers

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An extremely well written interpretation; However I think this is a bit of over-complication of a very simple term the asian culture has used for millennial called chi. A worthy topic for debate. thank you.

I prefer the school of the zen of programming which talks about removing complexities, so that we are closer to the fountain of internal knowledge and wisdom. As we create more rules on flow, we implicitly create friction. Friction hinders expression and creativity; which reduces the resonation of the feedback loop. I believe that the resonation of what and how much the feedback loop is doing is more important than how relative long the loop is.

Daragh Byrne

Thank you. I think the idea of flow has deep roots in Wu-wei and the Taoist expression in particular. Of course, what I write about draws deeply on others - Csikszentmihalyi of course, who was concerned for happiness, and operated in a reductionist culture, hence the anatomy lesson explanation of the experience (his writings, most notably the book Flow, are much more qualitative).

I think you are correct, keeping the feedback loop in mind regardless of duration is of deep value. It depends on how well-trained your attention and concentration are - I find many people can't do this, so a more mechanical approach to examining it pays off for the beginner. Of course, as you practice, it becomes instinctive and you can see the longer term patterns.

I think technique in general - in meditation in particular - is eventually to be let go of. But I've seen many benefit from training wheels along the way.

Thanks for engaging!

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awwh, another book lover! Thank you for the wisdom, you have excellent taste. Yoda would be proud. Here is an equation that is frequently used in energy physics.

"Use the formula v = λf to find the resonance frequency of a single continuous wave. The letter "v" stands for the wave velocity, whereas "λ" represents the distance of the wavelength. This formula states that the wave velocity equals the distance of the wavelength multiplied by the resonance frequency."

from the work of Max Planck; we can deduct that short waves which have very low energy, can be utilized by increasing the frequency. This is why the 2 minute rule works.

lifehack.org/articles/productivity...

further more:

"Wavelength is related to energy and frequency by E = hν = hc/λ, where E = energy, h = Planck's constant, ν = frequency, c = the speed of light, and λ = wavelength. Wavelength the distance between any given point and the same point in the next wave cycle."

which was discovered by Erwin Schrondinger, while and refined by the Einstein & Bohr.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck%E2%80...

visually you can see it as

i know you might be thinking hey what the heck does this have to do with development. Chi is a meta energy that adheres to the same principals of all energy. energy is energy. its the potential required to perform discrete and continuous work. Consciousness is like the planck unit for information. It is what the subspace (hidden variables that contain entropic information) is contain in. Consciousness is the only thing in the universe that travels faster than light, which is why beings with souls are different then say .. well everything has a soul that is living. Einstein and Schrodinger touted this. This means that electrons which quantum tunnel are conscious, i mean they do know where to appear..

Interesting fact, these principals were exploited in the atari 2600, racing the beam. They used quantum tunneling phenomena to store lots of data in the beam of the TV. ya insane.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_2600#G...

using these formulae you can determine exactly how much energy or work is required to produce desired outcome within a code base; after all its just a reflection of our, and organizations consciousness.

Thank you for the conversation. :)

Daragh Byrne

Another book lover indeed! And thank you likewise :)

As it happens, I have a physics degree, and worked in computational physics for a number of years - so energy is familiar territory, as are the evolution of the ideas of de Broglie, Planck and so on. Einstein was notoriously uncomfortable with his discoveries in quantum mechanics. You may have read Bohm already? A book you might enjoy is A.C. Grayling's The History of Philosophy, it gets into the details of the philosophy of the soul. My meditation heritage is broadly Buddhist, and I try on the ideas of anatta for size.

That's an interesting idea about codebases and energy/work. I imagine in principal there is a way to perform such a calculation. In practice, we are notoriously poor at estimating, which perhaps reflects a disorder in consciousness :)