Regarding - "Not sure if I understood correctly, but are you saying that you don't have any kind of tests on your backend?"
...yes we do have unit and integration but it's just that. We are not sure if those tests are sufficient. And we are not getting any strong opinion about doing or ignoring backend testing. how can find it that it is necessary? I read what you said about defect matrix - " just look at your list of resolved bugs and make a rough estimate of how many could have been avoided
if you had tests (of any kind)." we do not like to log many, we fix them as soon as we find them or we add them to using a story in our backlog for tracking.
about - "But if you feel that things ok this way and few bugs have been found in your backend by QA after rigorous testing, then it's probably not worth investing the time to write any tests for this." we are not doing manual testing at all and backend has never been exposed to any sort of testing except unit and integration(mostly using mock). This is the first time I am observing this way of programming without much testing & ready to learn from mistakes but not at the cost of leaving open ends, corner cases, vulnerabilities etc.. So I want to discuss this as much as possible in forums like this to gain a perspective :)
I would advise to do at some manual testing at least once in a while.
From my experience, simulations and real life situations (i.e. mocks vs actual manual testing) are not always equal.
When mocking, you're basically making some assumptions (which are usually favourable to your expectations) that might not be true in real-life scenarios.
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Regarding - "Not sure if I understood correctly, but are you saying that you don't have any kind of tests on your backend?"
...yes we do have unit and integration but it's just that. We are not sure if those tests are sufficient. And we are not getting any strong opinion about doing or ignoring backend testing. how can find it that it is necessary? I read what you said about defect matrix - " just look at your list of resolved bugs and make a rough estimate of how many could have been avoided
if you had tests (of any kind)." we do not like to log many, we fix them as soon as we find them or we add them to using a story in our backlog for tracking.
about - "But if you feel that things ok this way and few bugs have been found in your backend by QA after rigorous testing, then it's probably not worth investing the time to write any tests for this." we are not doing manual testing at all and backend has never been exposed to any sort of testing except unit and integration(mostly using mock). This is the first time I am observing this way of programming without much testing & ready to learn from mistakes but not at the cost of leaving open ends, corner cases, vulnerabilities etc.. So I want to discuss this as much as possible in forums like this to gain a perspective :)
I would advise to do at some manual testing at least once in a while.
From my experience, simulations and real life situations (i.e. mocks vs actual manual testing) are not always equal.
When mocking, you're basically making some assumptions (which are usually favourable to your expectations) that might not be true in real-life scenarios.