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I recently returned an HP Spectre x360 (slightly better spec than the XPS 13 from the article) and was terribly annoyed by the thermal throttling. My 2014 MBP easily outperformed it despite a much older processor. From a hardware point of view, a 13" MBP has a much faster CPU for any sustained workloads despite having a smaller turbo boost.

Windows itself was another headache. Not all laptops support the Microsoft precision drivers making native OS gestures such as the finger swipe to change workspace not work or produce scrolling issues between different apps. This may not be an issue on the XPS.

Not all apps in Windows work well with high DPI scaling either.

WSL is slow and there'll always be file system permission issues for docker and vagrant mounts when Windows is the host OS; this often applies to git projects too.

Dual booting is a possibility but another area where my much older MBP was significantly faster for certain workloads. Try doing a virtualbox packer build in Ubuntu with an 8550U, my CPU decided to run at 400Mhz (while plugged in!); after manually tweaking the minimum clock speed to 1.8Ghz the build was still much slower than my near silent MBP and a lot louder as the fans were constantly running.

 

Hey Andrew, thanks for your insight.

I recently returned an HP Spectre x360 (slightly better spec than the XPS 13 from the article) and was terribly annoyed by the thermal throttling. My 2014 MBP easily outperformed it despite a much older processor.

PC land is a jungle, because you have this cartesian product of hardware vendors + configurations and Windows + OEM customization which leads to PCs with similar specs but with wildly different performances. 🤷‍♂️

WSL is slow and there'll always be file system permission issues for docker and vagrant mounts when Windows is the host OS; this often applies to git projects too.

You're probably the third person say WSL is slow on here, can you elaborate? What do you mean by slow?

 

The XPS has slightly better thermals than the early 2018 Spectre but still hits thermal limits quickly. Notice how the MBP uses a different processor to every Windows 13" and 14" ultrabook on the market, it's base speed is also higher. Despite this and the fact the MBP CPU draws more power, battery life in Mac OS is superb.

WSL's main performance issue is related to file io. Something like 'git status' is much slower than native performance. Expect 'npm install' to be much slower than if you were on Mac OS or native Linux. To make the performance issue worse, the terminal experience in Windows requires manual setup to get something that kind of works, i.e. interactive applications (I recommend running wsltty via conemu).

Further to this, WSL does not always work correctly, e.g. I've had problems with multiplexed SSH connections and agent forwarding. Expect to have to downgrade binaries manually.

WSL's main performance issue is related to file io. Something like 'git status' is much slower than native performance. Expect 'npm install' to be much slower than if you were on Mac OS or native Linux.

npm install is already slow per se :-(

Further to this, WSL does not always work correctly, e.g. I've had problems with multiplexed SSH connections and agent forwarding. Expect to have to downgrade binaries manually.

It's like ending up with a worse linux on top of Windows.

My brain is currently moonwalking out of that place :D

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