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𒎏Wii 🏳️‍⚧️

I'm still not quite over the fact that this is even a problem. Humanity is well on its way to automate one of the last things that had so far been impossible to automate, and instead of being happy that there'll be even less work left for actual people, we're obsessing over preventing it.

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Teddy Lumidi

Most people don't like the idea that most of humanity will be super empowered by AI. And some competitors want to have advantage over their competitors thats why the thought of AI makes some people worried

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Louis-Alexandre Simard

I rather keep my job.
By the way like 60% of everything you consume isn't automated. All your clothes are still stitched by hand as there is no robot on earth capable of stitching by itself.

Your electronics are assembled by hand.

The future you describe is one where the only jobs available are low to no skill and liw pay.

We will move boxes and make lattes and own nothing

Sounds amazing

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𒎏Wii 🏳️‍⚧️

Given enough time, AI will probably enable robots to do more and more of these tasks as well. At some point humanity will just have to accept that the model of full-time employment for the entire population just isn't sustainable, and we'll have to start leaning back more. Well, that or we continue this weird "capitalism" nonsense, whereby "not enough work" is somehow a bad thing.

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Dima Sukharev

honestly i dont like coding, i love building. im happy AI will automate manual labour typing and could not manage zoo of libraries with 10000 different implementations of the same thing

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Jacob Van Wagoner

The hard part about programming is never "coding." The hard part is always "coming up with a solution to the problem." LLMs aren't going to replace the latter, only the former. I'm happy about that.

If we're going to whine about stuff getting automated then we might as well (in increasing order of absurdity):

  • ditch checkout scanners and bring back the middle class skilled profession of "store clerk" who tallies up the price of the goods.

  • get rid of the machines that fill pastries with creme and manually inject creme into all our Twinkies.

  • go back to assembly line manufacturing by hand for vehicles

  • eliminate tractors and go back to planting fields by hand

Because the important thing is keeping people in jobs, right? At every single one of those things and more, people protested about job losses.

There will always be more things for people to do. Getting them out of the boring stuff that they don't like doing, while still getting that stuff done, frees them up to do something else. The disruption is always temporary.

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Daniel Brenzel

There shouldn't be a discussion to revert the progression. (Environmental concerns by side)
The problem in the automation of simple tasks is the increasing complexity of the remaining ones. At some point cognitive load may be getting to big for some people to handle.
There should be a social debate about the implications of this problem.

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x2

"LLMs aren't going to replace the latter" They will, just not yet

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Jacob Van Wagoner

Everybody said that about "no code" but ironically all it did was increase the demand for developers.

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Dana Ng

True, and this will always open up doors for more things humans can do. I feel the fear in a lot of the articles about AI replacing this or that job, but people adapt and new jobs do come out of it. Also things evolve and adapt around the new changes.

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Jacob Van Wagoner

"BUt tHiS TiMe it'S DIFfErEnt!" - every news outlet ever, which get more views and more revenue when people think there's impending doom, which also said the same thing about every other disruptive automation tech.

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Dima Sukharev

same opinion, cant wait when i tell some AI-IDE what i want to build to solve a problem and i dont manage implemetations details