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Andreas Steffan

Thanks for your reply.

I agree there is a difference with regards to learning, but I'd argue there is a fair share of people in management and even devs which have not figured this out yet. At the end of the day, I guess it boils down to culture and the people gathering around it. I'd say what you suggest is how things should be.

I work freelance and I have built have a jvm based archive. The customer (which itself is in software dev business building most things in .NET and has a few hundert employees) said to take over development once the thing is done and expected that to happen quickly. I formally handed things over (even documented!) over a year ago. Customers devs don't even seem to look at it. Unfortunately, this thing is in production and some features cannot easily be replaced in a few days. Appears now they are slowly realizing their situation and things may be slightly more complex than expected.

Similar story at different scale seems to be happening with the same customer. App Devs and Ops seem to know very little about infrastructure development and DevOps. And indeed they also got assigned with the mission to set up Kubernetes clusters. They appear to understand very little, do a lot imperatively and manually and also appear pretty much stuck with a dozen early stage clusters already.