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Discussion on: Of Chickens and Pigs - The Dilemma of Creator Self Promotion

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jen chan

I'm loving the chicken and pigs analogy and the way you've highlighted different contributors come to the table with their own sense of commitment. I appreciate that you traced that journey over time as you established community... I've always found it a bit difficult to get into an open source project alongside doing work or my own. Thanks for sharing your perspective.

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Ryan Carniato Author

Never let any of this dissuade you if it is what you want to do. Most of what I described happened to me years ago and is only brought up because I was concerned that my actions might have hurt the perceived integrity of the communities I've been building.

But I do understand and it is important that anyone reading this does, that often these opinions while shared by a number of people can't make up the whole experience. Experiencing not only your own successes but those of the community brings a type of joy that is different than what you get on your own.

It can be hard to find the time/motivation definitely. It took me a couple years before I fully embraced this. But reactions like this really matter so little. I've experienced similar at different points in my life so I was prepared for this. Cautious still but prepared. I think despite that it is still completely worth it.

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jen chan • Edited

While I haven't been as deeply involved in an open source project like you per se... like you I've been part of some grassroots organizing of studio art collective, DIY art scene stuff and some online communities. This kind of thing is often thankless and much easier with my more stable income.

For me so far, with OSS contributions since it's voluntary I feel I need to play it by ear...I can't expect people to get back to my PR, if ever.

Where your article's pigs and chickens analogy resounded to me though, was to do with experiences of workplaces where the original software came up in a very community-involved way but they were trying to bring it into an enterprise tier... been at 2 companies like that and various politics or scaling happened to make pigs and chickens (and farmers) quite unhappy with each other. Having product focus and keeping everyone included makes a difference, it seems.... and of course, as projects grow and change churn is inevitable.

I didn't exactly understand what kind of critique you were experiencing til I read the comments.... And if you are I almost think, wow you unlocked a new level if you create a project that's significant to be considered "alternative" or competition!