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Nicolas Musset

Irony, irony.

You are making the ad hominem attack on Microsoft, and then asks me to raise the level?

For your information, the embrace, extend, extinguish was never really a policy a Microsoft. It was mentioned once during a trial by an external contractor who pretended it was used internally at Microsoft. What Microsoft was doing is what any other company of the time was doing, be competitive and fight to keep their market share. Nothing wrong here, it is how capitalism works.

In any case, those events took place more than 20 years ago. For the last decade, Microsoft has proven that they invest heavily in open source and the so-called extinguish step has never materialized in any fashion.

So when I said you still lived in the 1990s, I meant it literally. A fact is not an ad hominem, it is a fact.

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Morgen Peschke

That's not how ad hominem works.

I noted that Microsoft has a long-established pattern of behavior which makes them untrustworthy. You attacked me directly. There's a world of difference between, "Microsoft has a consistent record of being an bad actor", and "your opinion is invalid because you're living in the 90s".

You are also working off invalid data, testimony was given in court, under oath, that EEE was an internal policy at Microsoft. If they were lying, that would have been the greatest gift they could have possibly given Microsoft's lawyers. As they were unable to successfully challenge that statement, I consider it to be very credible testimony.

While true that EEE was not explicitly used to refer to previous actions which fall into this pattern, it remains an accurate description of the tactics used by Microsoft from about as quickly as they achieved sufficient market saturation for it to be a workable strategy.

If you're counting, that means we can trace EEE style tactics (or defense of the same) as far back as 1995, and as recent as 2007, so using 2x as a rule of thumb for trust recovery, I'll be willing to entertain the idea Microsoft has changed it's corporate strategy around 2031 - provided they don't relapse.