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Discussion on: Coding in your native language – have you heard of Legesher?

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Minna N.

In a way I agree, but I don't see this would be much different from e.g. minification of JavaScript: you are able to write code in a way that is comfortable for you and then it gets processed to a generic (in minification's case, compressed) form. Or just think about basic compiled languages: we write the code in a format that it's easy for us to write but it's not the final format.

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yellow1912 • Edited

That makes sense, but then in that way you need another compiler to compile that to English first? :D

I like the idea. But I think it creates more problems than it solves. I know this problem first hand because English is not my native language. I struggled ablot when I first started programming because in the book I used they translated all words and concepts. The translation is not always smooth (there are words that do not exist or not common in my language). It's also difficult to cross reference documents online as well.

In most recent books, I see that they gave up the whole translation and just use English directly. I think it makes lots of senses. Recently in the PHP world there is a new extension called swoole that is written by a Chinese team. When it's time for them to release to the world they had to make sure that they have English document (and the code itself used English to begin with).

Another language barrier thingy, not directly related, is the Japanese gaming industry. Japanese companies produce a huge number of games, and only some of these great games are known and popular outside of Japan because the rest are in Japanese.

I'm sorry but I still see this as a hobby project, not meant for professional developers. At least not for those who want to share or collaborate with people not speaking their native language. That is my opinion only of course, so it doesn't count. Keep up the work, probably will benefit others well.

PS: I was given a code of conduct warning. I think that is ridiculous. I never insulted anyone, just stated my opinion and experience. Has this community become so sensitive that one dare not say anything in fear of hurting the feeling of others? Then what is the purpose of discussion and debate?

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Minna N.

Very good points.

My contribution to Legesher was enlightening but I don't see myself coding in e.g. Finnish, either because I have the privilege of being able to recognize the words I write in code. But if some day someone can create code with it, with more ease than without it... I'll be happy for them.

PS. I don't know about the code of conduct warning. I didn't mind your original comment.

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Eevis

I was given a code of conduct warning. I think that is ridiculous. I never insulted anyone, just stated my opinion and experience. Has this community become so sensitive that one dare not say anything in fear of hurting the feeling of others? Then what is the purpose of discussion and debate?

Just wanted to comment here, that discussion and debate are ok, but everyone should be mindful of the tone and words they are using when commenting. The code of conduct here in Dev states, that we should use for example welcoming language, and be respectful of other points of views (so, not dismiss them as, for example, useless).

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yellow1912 • Edited

Ok, so if I say it's useless to me wouldn't that make things less offensive and more politically correct? Or that is not allowed as well? Sometimes I miss the reddit style where they can roast you left and right :). Anyhow, noted.

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Minna N. • Edited

Internet is full of places where people feel it's ok for them to insult other people and where that type of rhetoric is allowed (or even expected?). It's nice that there are places whose ideology is to be a safe place for everyone.

For me personally, it's a huge hurdle to to post anything even on dev.to because I don't feel worthy. But here I feel the community exists to be supportive and not destructive.