Totally. Been in the industry for 15 years. 80/20 is so true. Unless you really get put into a team with good developers (which are hard to find) you end up reading sh*t code every day. It eats up the brain cell so much that you feel frustrated every day. It's really exhausting. Being a really passionate developer in the past to where I am now, it's really a shame to say that I'm no longer passionate.
Finance industry is probably by far the best industry to retire safely. Developers probably 10 to 20 years. You won't be passionate by that time. You will have other commitments. People don't see us developers as gurus or Saints. They see us as machines who just loves to talk to computers.
It eats up the brain cell so much that you feel frustrated every day. It's really exhausting. Being a really passionate developer in the past to where I am now, it's really a shame to say that I'm no longer passionate.
I can wholeheartedly relate to this sentiment.
My 2019 has been a pretty sh*t year in that regard: I started the year in a great environment on a team with three fantastic people were also good developers that were passionate about improving the quality of our code and the product it was being sold as. I was in good soil, and was excited to solve problems with them.
But churn happened, and over the year, in addition to the impact of business health issues, those other engineers left my team, and I ended the year in this pretty passionless state, exhausted from trying so hard to maintain the same level of value production when I no longer cared. I definitely need to make some changes to my trajectory in 2020. 💪
Finance industry is probably by far the best industry to retire safely.
This seems to echo a bit of @phasedephase
's thoughts. Can you elaborate on why financial tech stands out so much, and what "retiring safely" means to you?
fintech stands out because the salaries are stratospheric, although AI jobs now command even higher paychecks (talking 7 figures here). Used to be only the best of the best financial traders would make 7 figures.
by 'retiring safely' i only meant that one never knows when the next financial downturn will hit like in 2008, when the mass layoffs will start... so (1) it'd be good to have enough to weather such an event comfortably and (2) therefore have accumulated enough wealth before a major economic meltdown so that one won't have to depend on an employer to put food on the table and truly be free to decide what to do with one's time.
if you haven't already, watch the movie In Time. a great summary of what i was driving at so clumsily.
Totally. Been in the industry for 15 years. 80/20 is so true. Unless you really get put into a team with good developers (which are hard to find) you end up reading sh*t code every day. It eats up the brain cell so much that you feel frustrated every day. It's really exhausting. Being a really passionate developer in the past to where I am now, it's really a shame to say that I'm no longer passionate.
Finance industry is probably by far the best industry to retire safely. Developers probably 10 to 20 years. You won't be passionate by that time. You will have other commitments. People don't see us developers as gurus or Saints. They see us as machines who just loves to talk to computers.
I can wholeheartedly relate to this sentiment.
My 2019 has been a pretty sh*t year in that regard: I started the year in a great environment on a team with three fantastic people were also good developers that were passionate about improving the quality of our code and the product it was being sold as. I was in good soil, and was excited to solve problems with them.
But churn happened, and over the year, in addition to the impact of business health issues, those other engineers left my team, and I ended the year in this pretty passionless state, exhausted from trying so hard to maintain the same level of value production when I no longer cared. I definitely need to make some changes to my trajectory in 2020. 💪
This seems to echo a bit of @phasedephase 's thoughts. Can you elaborate on why financial tech stands out so much, and what "retiring safely" means to you?
fintech stands out because the salaries are stratospheric, although AI jobs now command even higher paychecks (talking 7 figures here). Used to be only the best of the best financial traders would make 7 figures.
by 'retiring safely' i only meant that one never knows when the next financial downturn will hit like in 2008, when the mass layoffs will start... so (1) it'd be good to have enough to weather such an event comfortably and (2) therefore have accumulated enough wealth before a major economic meltdown so that one won't have to depend on an employer to put food on the table and truly be free to decide what to do with one's time.
if you haven't already, watch the movie In Time. a great summary of what i was driving at so clumsily.
atvb
Amen. Reading this brings back some nightmarish memories ;)
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