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Stephanie Morillo

Also, I think it would be interesting to try to do by the book Scrum. Just for a year. To see what it is like. But I don't think that will happen where I work.

I've thought the exact same thing, Eljay! We unfortunately have a traditional waterfall process and while we've adopted "Agile-like" and "Scrum-like" elements into our workflow, it's not a replacement for the real thing. The longer I'm in my role the more evident it has become that Scrum might help us become more innovative and get things out quicker. But that's just my assessment. :) Thanks for sharing!

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Eljay-Adobe

If you do get a chance to do by the book Scrum, there is a short series of blog posts by Kelly Waters called How to Implement Scrum in 10 Easy Steps.

The website lists them in reverse chronological order, and I suspect their internal links are broken when the blog posts were archived.

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Stephanie Morillo

Nice. I have my Professional Scrum Master certification and have a foundational understanding of the framework. But I am keen on understanding how it looks like when applied (especially in large companies that have always been waterfall).

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Ian Klek • Edited

Just wondering if you're an engineer yourself. I've found that a scrum master with no (software) engineering experience is woefully inefficient in organising work as they can't understand how some stories fit into the dev stream. It often consumes a lot of dev time in assisting the SM to organise this. Any insight into how a scrum master works well would be really appreciated 😁

Truth be told, or part time scrum master doesn't really know scrum, so that didn't help

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Stephanie Morillo • Edited

I’m not an engineer myself but my situation is different; I actually sit on the engineering team, and I know the engineer’s work stream because our team processes were built around it. In practice my role is a blend of product management and technical program management. In fact, what prompted me to ask this question was less about my own experience than it was about understanding how this has worked for other people. I have an excellent working relationship with my developer colleagues; we all complement each other and our skill sets very well.

And based on your description, it sounds like your SM was actually a Project Manager? Scrum emphatically differentiates between an SM and a PM, with those on the development team responsible for organizing their own work. But I know in practice this is not always the case.