Discussion on: Is Angular Dead in 2022?

[Antonio Sarcevic]

SvelteKit FTW :)

[Ivan Jeremic]

React > Svelte

[Antonio Sarcevic]

less features, more code, bigger bundle, worse performance ... 🤷‍♂️

[Ivan Jeremic]

Bigger bundle on hello world apps yes, but once you have an bigger app react is smaller. Also less built in features(maybe) but overall more feature because of ecosystem, worst performance, nahh do you feel it?

[Adan Ulloa]

Svelte is faster because of the way it was designed without the virtual dom. That doesnt mean you will feel the diference on a modern pc. But been faster means that your application will be compatible with older devices or IoT devices which doesnt have that big of a hardware.

[mellunar]

Yeah, because it's better to keep on:

import React, { useState } from 'react';
function Component() {
  const [count, setCount] = useState(0);
}

instead of:

let count = 0;

🤷

[Ivan Jeremic]

You got hooked by the popular talk but lets be real there will always be people who like the react way more its just a function which returns UI no matter ho clean svelte or any new framework that comes out is there will always be people who like the react way more.

[Antonio Sarcevic]

we got hooked by the underlying philosophy that creating interactive UI doesn't need to be a chore :D

[Ivan Jeremic]

But it isn't for everyone, as I already said there are people who will always like the react model no matter what comes out because they come maybe more from a programming background first, in programming you build an application by composing functions together that do a certain job. In react you use functions and each one returns a piece of UI and its logic which makes sense and people build UIs that ways easier.

[Eduard Jacko]

@mellunar The React example is not a valid component ;) Maybe you should write an actual simple component as you are pointing to difference between state management only. This is more fair to compare

<script>
    let name = 'world';
</script>
<h1>Hello {name}!</h1>
<button on:click={() => name = "Hi"}>click me</button>

vs

function Greeting() {
  const [state, setState] = useState("world")
  return (
      <>
          <h1>Hello  {state}!</h1>
          <button onClick={() => setState("Hi")}>click me</button>
      </>
  )
}

[Ivan Jeremic]

A javascript function body is your script tag in Svelte the javascript return is your svelte file for markup, some people like programming some like XML style.

[Antonio Sarcevic]

Implying writing HTML isn't programming

[Ivan Jeremic]

Writing jsx is.

[Antonio Sarcevic]

Im glad you feel superior for making your life harder 🤣

[Ivan Jeremic]

I'm sorry for you that your brain can't grasp it.