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Discussion on: When PHP Framework Sucks Series: How not to shape your app in the shape of the framework

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David S.

Maybe there is a problem with structuring web apps that way, if a majority of programmers don't understand how to do it.

MVC was invented for graphical user interfaces in the xerox days and dependency injection is handling dependencies in the opposite way that most programming languages are designed.

...and all of this, on a language that was meant to be a template engine.