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Discussion on: The Snobby Demonization of PHP

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Adam Nathaniel Davis • Edited

I don't totally agree with this - because once a language reaches a certain "critical mass" of installed legacy codebases, it will tend to live, in some capacity, nearly forever. Flash died because there were almost no business applications that truly depended upon it. The vast majority of stuff written in it was for fluff-presentation - or entertainment. And that stuff can all be "turned off" if The Powers That Be deem it so. (By the way - I too did Flex dev - and I loved it. Sigh...)

But if your point is just that PHP isn't truly "dying" in any substantive sense, and thus it will never really "go away", then I completely agree with you. There are too many huge legacy systems (WordPress, Wikipedia, etc.) for it to ever truly DIE.

I also agree that PHP is growing and it's growing in a very positive way. But many in the dev community do not "see" it this way. And even though it IS growing, it's not growing at the same rate as JS. When I say "growing", I don't mean just the number of new LoC that are being written in it every year. I'm referring more to the rate at which new advancements are being made in the language. In this regard, JS seems to be lapping the field, IMHO.

Finally, seeing some of the early comments on this post, I realize that my viewpoint is very US-centric. I have noticed that PHP isn't quite the pariah in other countries that it is in the US. Outside the US, there are still plenty of people who see PHP as a viable language to learn and to use for new applications. In the US, I feel like this viewpoint is much different amongst the "senior developer" crowd.