The fact that it's overly siloed. I want to face people I disagree with. I want my opinion challenged with thought provoking debate. I get that occasionally on twitter although often it's not as high brow. But it's important to me that I don't live in a bubble.
that's one way to look at it, which is also quite privileged tbf.
on mastodon as on anywhere else, people are victim of racism, queerphobia, ableism and you know what else. so, the "siloing" nature of that social media shield people from being in constant contact with fash content and hate speech basically.
im not sure what kind of disagreement you're looking to face, but all the constructive conversations you might be able to get over a social media are of course not affected by instance defederation.
That's true I do have some privilege. I agree content moderation is pretty essential for a good social network. I do have a problem with a lot of the "free" networks I tried in the past. They were terrible exactly because of those problems. I don't have enough experience in Mastodon but I do agree there's value to having a safe space for those who want it.
I want a middle ground. You can feel safe in a silo and that's fine. Unfortunately so do people with problematic opinions who enter their own echo-chambers. They come out as pretty deranged in the end. Fighting such people doesn't help. But engaging them sometimes does chip off a bit.
The other day there was a post about Bidens accomplishments on twitter. It got the obligatory "but inflation", etc. responses. Unfortunately, the responses for that were typically bad attacking Trump instead of correcting the misunderstandings about metrics. I was able to engage with several people I strongly disagree with, in a factual discussion. Did I convince anyone? Probably not. But it's crucial to force reasonable debate. My country just elected the most fascist government we ever had the other day. It wasn't overnight and the separation of "us vs. them" was key all the way.
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That's literally what Mastodon is, though, it's you seeing your local and federated timelines on the same screen. I don't think it gets more "middle ground" than that!
Yes. But it does take some getting used to. I can't search the whole thing and it's less random than Twitter. I'm used to the way Twitter is and currently I still like it more. But I do like that mastodon isn't as addictive (in a bad way).
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Agreed. That's a major problem I have with mastodon.
what is the major problem you're pointing at?
i genuinely didn't get it, sorry.
The fact that it's overly siloed. I want to face people I disagree with. I want my opinion challenged with thought provoking debate. I get that occasionally on twitter although often it's not as high brow. But it's important to me that I don't live in a bubble.
that's one way to look at it, which is also quite privileged tbf.
on mastodon as on anywhere else, people are victim of racism, queerphobia, ableism and you know what else. so, the "siloing" nature of that social media shield people from being in constant contact with fash content and hate speech basically.
im not sure what kind of disagreement you're looking to face, but all the constructive conversations you might be able to get over a social media are of course not affected by instance defederation.
That's true I do have some privilege. I agree content moderation is pretty essential for a good social network. I do have a problem with a lot of the "free" networks I tried in the past. They were terrible exactly because of those problems. I don't have enough experience in Mastodon but I do agree there's value to having a safe space for those who want it.
I want a middle ground. You can feel safe in a silo and that's fine. Unfortunately so do people with problematic opinions who enter their own echo-chambers. They come out as pretty deranged in the end. Fighting such people doesn't help. But engaging them sometimes does chip off a bit.
The other day there was a post about Bidens accomplishments on twitter. It got the obligatory "but inflation", etc. responses. Unfortunately, the responses for that were typically bad attacking Trump instead of correcting the misunderstandings about metrics. I was able to engage with several people I strongly disagree with, in a factual discussion. Did I convince anyone? Probably not. But it's crucial to force reasonable debate. My country just elected the most fascist government we ever had the other day. It wasn't overnight and the separation of "us vs. them" was key all the way.
That's literally what Mastodon is, though, it's you seeing your local and federated timelines on the same screen. I don't think it gets more "middle ground" than that!
Yes. But it does take some getting used to. I can't search the whole thing and it's less random than Twitter. I'm used to the way Twitter is and currently I still like it more. But I do like that mastodon isn't as addictive (in a bad way).