Well I disagree completely too - so at least we have that in common!
you learn MVC by grabbing Rails or Django and getting your hands dirty.
I think all you'll learn is Rails or Django.
frameworks take away some of your freedom - your freedom to code bullshit.
Sure. But, in the words of Jeff Goldblum, "Bullshit finds a way". Frameworks just mean you'll code your bullshit in new mutant strains around the framework's constraints.
frameworks make you read additional tutorials and documentation
Isn't this a bit of a smell? When half of the books published on programming seem to be about how to use a particular framework? Always seems weird to me...
Well I disagree completely too - so at least we have that in common!
I think all you'll learn is Rails or Django.
Sure. But, in the words of Jeff Goldblum, "Bullshit finds a way". Frameworks just mean you'll code your bullshit in new mutant strains around the framework's constraints.
Isn't this a bit of a smell? When half of the books published on programming seem to be about how to use a particular framework? Always seems weird to me...
I give you a "like" because of Jeff Goldblum. :-))))