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Discussion on: Apple to Reduce App Store Commissions for Small Businesses in 2021

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Jean-Michel Fayard πŸ‡«πŸ‡·πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡¬πŸ‡§πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡¨πŸ‡΄ • Edited

The reverse pretty much is true. Apple made much much more than millions off the work of DHH and the thousands of developers whose services are what make Apple's hardware valuable.

Now the issue at hand is that a significant part of this huge profit comes from monopoly power which is bad for the economy as any standard book will tell you.

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Kevin R • Edited

I agree with the first but not the later statement. Apple isn't a monopoly, in the legal space... do we need a modernization of what constitutes monopolies? Definitely. All of these large complaints came from their ability to develop within Apple's ecosystem, and sure they may have made them money, but they're not sole contributors to moving Apple's hardware. No one is buying Apple Products for them and them alone. Apple is following just like the rest of them being a business that protect the interest of their shareholders. Apple provides the code, hardware and security that they don't have to worry about. Does it merit 30%? I'm not one to say, but I'm also not competing on platform that I don't agree with.
Besides... I really think unionization could fix this mess, but that's something most of these people don't want to hear. For some odd reason, collective bargaining scares these people.

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Jean-Michel Fayard πŸ‡«πŸ‡·πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡¬πŸ‡§πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡¨πŸ‡΄

Does it merit 30%? I'm not one to say

The free market is the one supposed to answer this question. But free markets only exists if the regulators intervene to dismantle monopoly powers. There is this misconception that because Android exists, iOS is not a monopoly. But that's not true, the same economic logic and the same rules apply if there is a duopoly. Take only the grip that Apple has on safari/iOS. This alone is worse than what Microsoft did with internet explorer.

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Kevin R

But 30% is the margin, that's why it was dismissed in the first case. That's where I don't agree with these larger companies. The starting dev? Fine, but the last time I check Spotify, Bascamp/DHH, and Epic are doing fine with Sony and Playstation's margins, Nintendo, and Xbox's respectively which also take their 30%. If it was across the board? Fair, but singling out Apple like they're special in doing this is not great legal standing.
At least lobby some [insert legal representatives] and fix the laws in your favor first.