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peerreynders • Edited on

Ok, primed myself with

and running with it.

which can handle front reactivity directly

It handles hydration which is entirely different from reactivity.

(Sorry, acting a bit like a Ryan Carniato deadhead but his enthusiasm for these kind of topics is kind of infectious.)

Hydration is one solution to a problem that Paul Lewis raised way back in 2016

Phoenix LiveView (2018) is essentially a means of building a server-side-VDOM-based SPA implemented in Elixir (backed by the Erlang VM to handle client state on the server side) mostly in an attempt to decouple application development from the unstable nature of the JavaScript ecosystem.

As such LiveView is very clear about the constraints that it operates under.

And Astro drives the point home about how Node currently predominates.

However Astro supports a number of other client side frameworks as well. So anybody adopting Astro will stick to Node.js.

Perhaps sometime in the future they'll expand to the edge and perhaps it is then that Deno will become relevant to them.


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Aurélien Delogu

Oh boy... You clearly expanded my understanding on frontend frameworks 😅 Very interesting articles, thanks a lot for that !

It handles hydration which is entirely different from reactivity.

Indeed. Instead of talking about reactivity I should have said "interactivity" which was more what I have in mind.

Sorry, acting a bit like a Ryan Carniato deadhead but his enthusiasm for these kind of topics is kind of infectious.

Well... click Followed too.

Perhaps sometime in the future they'll expand to the edge and perhaps it is then that Deno will become relevant to them.

In fact, that was my point earlier, I'll try to explain it a bit. I think that there are a whole bunch of different frameworks out there and only the most knowns (or should I say: the most trendy) will be used. But TypeScript takes more and more space into companies' stacks. And adopting Deno instead of Node seems to be the fair suite to this. And then... Fresh. It would take some years for that but... I'm willing to take a gamble 😄