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Samuel-Zacharie FAURE

I mean sure you can work one or two shitty jobs to make ends meets. However, in most countries, try building a family without being in the top 20% earners. It becomes exceedingly difficult. It's not about your lifestyle and it's not about how many starbucks you drink.

Heck, just try accessing home ownership as a millenial. The only people I know who could manage it either inherited, or are in the top 1 to 5% revenue of the country.

We developers don't realize how privileged we are.

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Jeniffer Carvalho

Samuel, I couldn't agree more with you.

We are extremely privileged.

I can use myself as an example.
I'm from Brazil, I studied in public schools, and I needed to use a university loan to complete my studies. Every little step was hard and faded to fail. But I was resilient, and today I work remotely for an American company. I like to use my example to inspire others to do the same.

The path is tough, sometimes money is a problem, and you don't have anyone to base on. That's why I create those articles.

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Rob OLeary • Edited

I totally get your perspective samuel and I agree it is too hard in too many places. What I was getting at, is that your welfare/attitude is tied to your country's economy, system, culture, and your own background. For example, I am from ireland, and university is free. I didnt start my career in debt, which is a big help. The other side is that home ownership in Ireland requires a big salary and demand is always > supply, so prices grow bigger. The culture is that everyone wants to own a home, and the rental market sucks in the cities. So, this puts people in an awkward position like what you mentioned.

If I wanted to own a house, I would need to get a good dev job, and/or have a partner with an income. This wasnt a realistic goal for me, especially early in my career. But I am not hung-up on owing a house and I would prefer to be away from the city, so this does not force my hand. My attitude is flexible and I like to travel, so I found it better to live in places where renting is more the social norm and prices are sensible. I am probable doubly lucky, that I can chose to go to another country to find a better fit. I hope that the availability of remote work breaks some of these negative cycles soon.

I have a few friends in Brazil with dev jobs and they still find it hard. They tend to live with their parents longer until they have savings and their salary goes up. I stayed with a guy in greece and he worked in london in a dev job for a couple of years. He left because there was no jobs in Greece. It took him a couple of years of searching to find a dev job in athens. Things are different place to place.