Did I get your attention?
I actually used Ubuntu as my very first Linux Distro. Now after using Arch, I can't imagine going back to Ubuntu. I've tried using it and other derivatives of it. And I find it very hard to use.
Yes installing Arch is harder...much harder, but after that everything is just easier to use. Especially installing programs.
I don't even use a Desktop Environment. I just use a simple i3wm and I can't imagine using anything else anymore. I tried other DEs and just can't get the feelings.
Update: Arguing about stability is a weak argument. You do not have to constantly update. Just because you can, doesn't mean you have to. + if you installed Arch (vanilla, not manjaro) on your own you pretty much know 99% of what is going on with your system. You will know how to fix things.
If you said you used Arch, but was actually referring to Manjaro, then you really can can't say you are an Arch-user.
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yeah, you did get my attention. I use Ubuntu and never used Arch - (I shall use arch in the future). Installing Ubuntu is not difficult and installing programs on Ubuntu not also difficult.
I can't imagine going back to Ubuntu. Try Ubuntu again.Ubuntu needs too many repos for certain programs.
You should try Arch. Ubuntu isn't hard, my post was to be sarcastic, but it's true I can't imagine going going back to it. Arch is superior in every way
I used to use the arch UI/theme on my Ubuntu.
On a scale of 1 to 5, would you recommend arch to a friend?
Definitely. Awesome OS
Superior in every way, in which ways then? Be more specific, or you're not convincing me.
Just the repos alone is already better
Arch is a rolling release, Ubuntu is a point release.
Did you ever even use Arch? Or installing it turned you away? Because if you did used Arch, you wouldn't be offended(from the sound of your comments)
In Arch, if you run into problems, you pretty much know what's wrong. Because you've built Arch from scratch.
There's plenty of help enough for the average user. If you are constantly seeking for help, then stick with Ubuntu.
I'm not offended :-) but I was just curious about the reasons why it's better ... and "better" is often completely subjective, it depends a lot on your goals, priorities and preferences, what's great for one person may suck for someone else.
By the way, is it Arch based on Debian (like Ubuntu), with all of the packages that come with it?
If someone wants to convince me then I like to hear reasons and arguments rather than just "it's better". And of course there's inertia, most people stick with what they're familiar with unless something else is vastly superior. Most of the time these things are a toss-up and one choice isn't that much better of even different than the other one.
Arch is Arch, I know Ubuntu is Debian based.
Honestly, I didn't know anything about Arch. I was an Ubuntu user for a long time. I used all kinds of Ubuntu based distros.
I learned Arch WHILE I was installing it. Lol
Agreed...
Totally agree, both installing Ubuntu itself, and installing programs, is trivially easy.
If you know how to type
apt-get installin a terminal then you know how to install programs under Ubuntu. And the community is way bigger, which means that if you run into problems it's easier to get help.Ubuntu FTW ... :-)
Its not that,Arch rocks man😇 definitely try it
Are you using vanilla arch or arch-based distro?
Hundred percent subjective :-)
Although I've never installed or used arch/manjaro etc I've heard great things about AUR. I'm a PopOS user, so I get latest packages with Ubuntu's stability
Ubuntu stability... at the end, it's what you use.
While true stability can be argued, but Arch doesn't update in the background.
Arch users considers it more stable because we custom build the Distro so it tends to have less bloat and you know what you put in it. This is contrary to many other different distributions where something you didn't even know you had could break and not know how to fix it.
Easier to fix something you made, that's why Arch users thinks it's actually more stable.
Best analogy is this,
Auto mechanic driving a stick= Arch or any self installed OS
Average driver driving automatic = other prepackaged distros
I totally agree with you, u can build it to your specs, beautiful wikki and forum to help you get out any problem. Rolling release. Who could ask for more. I too tried Ubuntu first, but now I even have Arch on my Raspberry Pi
I have used Mint, Manjaro, Arc and recently Deepin and I can't say that Arch is easier to use than Ubuntu. For me it is exactly the opposite. Well, to be honest I like Deepin the most but it needs more resources to run smoothly than the other distros and in my company you get Ubuntu by default und you can't change it.
I see, but install Vanilla Arch on your personal PC. Best of both linux worlds. Arch and Debian.
I have Kali on my laptop and Arch as my main driver on my PC
Not harder but more annoying and bloated 😝😂, arch is much more like AOSP roms and Ubuntu is like a MiUi which had lots of packages pre-installed. The learning is curve is steep with arch, finding solutions on archwiki and youtube but you'll get used to it. Ubuntu is more Noemie feiendly distro😂 no hate though, Ive been through the phase and anyone wants to progress in linux ecosystem they should try out arch it's pain in the ass in start but when you get used to it you can't go back.
The more I learned using Arch, the less I remember for Ubuntu and was like why didn't I use Arch first?
I think I tried installing Arch more than 6-8 times and it was a pain.
Me too man i've watched a lot of videos on youtube for installing after so many failed attempts I got this time right, and previous manjaro exp help too because of same package managers and other configs.
something i learned is that you need to just read the wiki, Youtube videos are helpful but not complete. The wiki is key.
Yes definitely.
I have used Pop_OS, Ubuntu, Deepin during 2020, they are all good and solid but I had drivers issues on dell xps 15 9550, especially bluetooth. I switched to Manjaro few days ago, and so far I'm happy about it. The support for Snap, Flatpak and AUR is awesome. And for some reason, my battery life has increased without having to do some tweaks.
I am not a fan of Manjaro, I have the Manjaro ARM for my pinebook pro, but I haven't touched that pinebook pro after 1 month of having it. Manjaro is just ehh to me.
I consider switch because I don't want to add more PPA to the sytem ( I use Pop_OS.). One good thing about Arch is it has official Minecraft launcher. I use Linux desktop for gaming because it's better for currently potato computer.
make the switch, you will love it. Do the Vanilla Arch install, don't use Manjaro otherwise you won't ever learn the system and won't have the pleasure to actually build it from scratch.
Are there more than one way to install Arch? Like from Scratch?
Yeah I agree, but ubuntu ain't harder for normal usage, but it's harder for installing few packages, specifically using snapshots and alot of other stuff, but arch have a wonderful user repository (Aur), all though it have a good repos and wiki, but it's not as stable as debian based, & sometimes user might end up in errors while system upgrades, but can roll back using timeshift's , I probably I agree the arch is easy in installing apps or updates, but rest all same to same.
Earlier I commented about stablility, if you are runnin' vanilla arch, you shouldn't really have much of a problem with stablility, in fact, I think it is more stable because I get to choose if I want to upgrade any packages and even if the packages messes up something, I can always roll back and I knew what happened.
I'm an ubuntu user since the past 1 year. I actually started using linux because I wanted to use arch but was scared because of a lot people claiming that its pretty difficult and is not a beginner's choice. So yeah I'm kind of waiting for maybe 1 more year of using linux so that I can make a switch. By the way switching from windows to ubuntu was one of my best decisions. It's just so fast and smooth. And I can't wait to join the arch community, I'm just waiting that I can be more prepared for it. I've heard so much about it. And I'm surely gonna switch, just not now, but yeah soon.
I recommend using an Arch based distros such as Anarchy, endeavour, Archlabs, or Manjaro. Ubuntu is Debian based.
if you want to use vanilla arch then these are the installation steps: codepen.io/murali-sree-krishna/pen... ,
i use this install base system, later i change to desktop or window manager depends on work
Oh gosh I finally installed arch today. I am so happy to join the arch community.
What DE are you using?
I am not using any DE, I am using i3WM
That's awesome. I use only i3wm as well. Well i3-gap. Same stuff.
On surface ubuntu seems easy and intuitive. But it sucks when comes to installing github programs or getting latest bleeding edge softwares. And they did nerfed distro by using snaps and other bloat under name of security. Arch on the other hand is really minimalist. You choose what you want. Aur is best❤️. And just works with bleeding edge softwares without breaking.
I concur, plus you can always install using git or install deb packages as well. I did it a few times where a software was only for deb and I just downloaded and installed it myself.