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She began learning arts and drawing in 2015, only to later in 2020 professionalize itself in the area through international commissions, nowadays she is a streamer part of the VTuber community; The guest for the second interview is Bonnie_Caracol, nowadays her focus is on streaming. Her streams are usually calmer and relaxing, the content is largely composed of games, occasionally having conversation and reacts of clips.
Following is our conversation.
Just as there are AI's in other areas, do you believe they will affected Live Streams?
I don't know much about AI's being used in streams, but there are some videos of people training IA's and making them play games, which is a fun content to watch on YouTube. I imagine it can be watched in a stream.
There’s also streamers affected by others who made use of AI's, in this case it is very problematic. Like the case of that one streamer who was drawing in his stream, and had his sketch stolen by someone else who placed it in an artificial intelligence to “finish” his art.
The Raiden Shogun art again... Thinking of similar situations, do you believe there is a way to avoid this theft that is not made by the AI, but by a person?
People stealing other people's arts within the art community has always been a thing, regardless of whether they have an AI involved or not. It is common to hear about people who have traced or simply take screenshots of the art and post as their own; This is a problem of ethics and morals of each individual, and bad people will always exist.
What the AI allows is that people like this can “turn around” the situation, since the stolen sketch would be a different art from the one finished by the original artist.
What are the most common arguments you witness against or in favor of AI's?
The few arguments in favor of AI's that I saw are that “I generated this amazing image without having to dedicate my entire life studying”, and that it can be used to help artists to produce a better original artwork.
Do you agree with any of these arguments?
I think the last one, which says it can be used as a tool.
It is common for artists to use 3D models in their creative process, use photo bashing (type of digital illustration where photos/pieces of photo are manipulated in conjunction with digital painting, to create the final artwork), digital brushes that mimic foliage, clouds and etc; are also used and accepted by the community.
What do you think about platforms training AI's using the art made by their users?
An AI needs to learn from somewhere to get a result, the biggest problem is that many artists are having their arts used without permission to feed this algorithm. Many artists with years of study and effort are afraid to lose their place because of a machine, or even serve as a study material to generate new images.
The way AI is being used today is a problem; As an artist I do not want to use a program that uses images of other artists without their authorization.
Do you think AI’s need a regulation by law? Or do you believe that would be a futile effort?
With technology growing and increasingly being part of our lives, it's just a matter of time until companies see a saving opportunity. With AI's being part of the corporate world, I believe yes, some regulation will exist, although it probably won't happen anytime soon.
Do you think it is unfair to use IA at an event or contest? Even if this does not offer a reward?
I think so. Arts contests are manual work, artificial intelligence does not enter as “handcrafted product” and is unfair to other participants, I do not agree with people using AI’s and simply claiming ownership of that image, like the guy who won 1st place in a contest with image generated by AI; They should have their own contests, where only generated images can enter.
In your opinion how can you avoid “theft” of the art by the IA itself?
It is up to their creators to be aware of the sources where the images to feed the algorithm are coming, either by formally asking permission to artists (with a contract) or using only images without copyright. Although this is ideal, I find it very unlikely. It is much easier for companies to hide these things in small letters in a service term and just continue their progress.
In your opinion what is the future of these AI's?
It is not up to me to say what will happen in the future, but I hope whatever happens it will be moral and ethical.
We can finish here, would you like to add something?
The growth of technology is inevitable, it is always advancing, condemning AI for existing is impossible; Art is already very complicated and demands a lot of time, if you can save a few hours of frustration, why not?
Me for example, i have a hard time visualizing ideas (aphantasia), thinking of different perspectives, different illuminations… This is something that consumes a lot of me, mentally i mean.
Once in my photography course, my teacher said: “We photograph with all our life luggage, our past and our personal tastes”, I believe it is true for any form of art, be drawing, photography, music… An artificial intelligence simply has nothing of that.
My fear is to see people giving up on something they love and believe because they think that "a machine can do better than me”
This was today's guest, who leaves while giving an anime recommendation:
“Carole & Tuesday talks a bit about it. In a technological world, where all artists use artificial intelligence to compose music, two girls go there and do whatever they want, conquering a lot of people and causing a political revolution.”
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