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Destructive arguments used in technology discussions on social media that have to die

Christian Heilmann on March 15, 2022

Social media is a wonderful thing as it does give everyone a voice. This can be a problem when that voice is used to bring other people down or mak...
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Ross Henderson

90% of Tech Twitter is split between these arguments and useless engagement bait.

"As a dev..."
"What's your setup"
"What's your favourite JS framework and why is it x"

In fact, Tech Twitter needs to stop talking about JavaScript 90% of the time.

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Christian Heilmann

You forget all the arguments about which editor to use, in which theme and using which "code optimised" font :)

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Ben Overmyer

What do you mean you didn’t spend $200 on a bespoke coding typeface? What’s wrong with you??

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David Lorenz • Edited

Honestly if there are people acting like that I immediately assume they are "Juniors" in a Generic Semantic Perspective. The actual tech experience is only a small subset of being Senior & Mature. Being the latter you have to show empathy and acknowledge that everything is driven by use cases and needs plus context

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David Lorenz

"I'm forcing myself to be calmer, to care less about things being "obviously wrong" and to listen more intently"

Same. If people start to be loud (capslock) and toxic I might just block them to stay sane

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MiguelMJ

These are the only skills employers are looking for!

I've heard this a lot and I hate it... What if I'm just interested in certain technology? What if I really have use cases in mind that don't involve getting a new job? What if I just want to understand better another software that uses certain technology?

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EECOLOR

The longer you work in development, the more tainted you get.

That's a pretty bleak look at things. But before I can make an argument against this statement I would first like to read your other article. However, it seems your website is down.

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Christian Heilmann

works here. Well, tainted may be too strong a word, but if you're not careful you can get into pretty annoying habits of discarding things quickly.

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EECOLOR

Yes, it is working again :-D

Thank you for taking the time to write these articles. While I can agree with the sentiment I do feel uncomfortable about the way you present it. In this article most of the sections contain arguments explaining why the 'thing people say' is bad.

These arguments are presented as being facts, like this one:

The longer you work in development, the more tainted you get.

As you stated:

Well, tainted may be too strong a word, but if you're not careful you can get into pretty annoying habits of discarding things quickly.

This nuance contains the critique I have, 'too strong a word' and 'you can get' (not being a guaranteed consequence). I think it is important to nuance arguments like that because otherwise you might be feeding the same machine you are fighting.

As for this particular statement, I have a slightly different view on the matter. In my observation as developers gain more experience they are more able to predict the amount of work. We can see more clearly the amount of work and for example the consequences of switching to a new framework.

What I am trying to say is that it might be helpful to present you arguments a bit more careful. That would allow you to separate facts from observations and personal logical conclusions. I think it would also help the reader to more easily think about the things you are saying.

As a last critique: It would be nice for each section to have some pointers on how to approach the situation differently. You clearly have experience and I'm sure you understand where the sound of these voices is coming from. What would you say to one of these persons (that happens to be nice and sensible) saying these things?

Again, thank you for taking the time to write these things down.

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Ben Overmyer

The other thing to consider here is that we need to gently help people correct course when they exhibit behavior like this. Getting angry or frustrated with it tends to alienate the people we could be helping.

Also… I used to be guilty of all of these, I think, at various points in my career. Learning to recognize them as toxic was a transformative experience for me.

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MartinJ

Well said. I'm all for new ideas, but maybe you can have have too much of a good thing. After a while, the continual churn becomes positively destructive. A bit more general cynicism like this would be welcome.

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Chris Frewin

Just ignore the haters and keep truckin', these arguments can really be made for any occupation, and I think its more endemic of the social media / digital posting world we live in today.

I'm also very much a supporter of the idea to simply ignore the noise. As for the xyz hype, it's always helpful and encouraging to remember that the huge majority of technology systems run on "ancient" technologies like Java, JQuery, and even COBOL - and they work just fine.

Though I will still say for any starting or juniors it can be a bit fun (and useful) to follow some of the hype trains, it's how I "got in early" with React and Gatsby when I was starting out.

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Maxime Guilbert

Clap Clap Clap

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SVGator

Gate-keeping is the worst! Never considered your take on copying big players. Makes a bunch more sense when you put it like that.