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I have recently watched Preventing the Collapse of Civilization by Jonathan Blow - amazing talk - and was curious if...
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Really cool, something totally different among all of the web development articles! Used x86 assembly long time ago but only for a few tiny utility programs.
I mean in the end my boot loader is also just a tiny utility program 😅.
TBH I'm glad I don't have to use assembler for more than tiny programs because it requires a lot of mental capacity to even do simple things.
Hey! This is the best kernel series in the world! I want to make a tutorial about it on YT and a personal OS, basing on this source code. But I don't know if i have the permissions. Thank you, for the great series, and hope you reply me!
Go ahead!
Thank you!
Please share your material once you're done so I can check it out and hit the like button ;)
OK!
what is this erld: warning: cannot find entry symbol start; defaulting to 0000000000001000
ld: kernel.o: in function
main':_GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE'kernel.c:(.text+0x10): undefined reference to
make: *** [Makefile:9: kernel.bin] Error 1
ror?
I don't know? What did you do?
I do start makefile
I wrote and tested this only on Mac. Are you using Linux?
yes
same problem in macOS
I know its late but add -fno-pie to gcc compilation
May I know the code with -fno-pie added?
its --no-pie and not -fno-pie
Adding -fno-pie in gcc fix the problem to me
gcc -fno-pie -m32 -ffreestanding -c kernel.c -o kernel.o
Great post! I have always wanted to do my own OS though ideally with C# syntax (tried with Cosmos). It is something I want to try again at some stage - build a mini bootloader like you have and initialise an environment to run it.
Kinda like what you seem to get at in the article, I imagine drivers will be the harder part.
Looking forward to the next part!
Glad you liked it! Working on a simple VGA driver right now :)
Hi Frank,
I really enjoyed this lesson and have used it to supplement a lesson published by Lucus Darnell in his Operating System from Scratch lessons.
Would I have your permission to use your code base in lessons to my students? I used to have them work with GRUB for their assignments, but having a fully implemented bootloader compatible with qemu would be a great lesson.
Please let me know, thanks!
Sure, go ahead! Do you mind linking folks to this post? :)
Absolutely! I will reference the post in the syllabus. Perhaps I can put your information together with some of my other work and put it into an open source text book that we can use to distribute to the students. Would you be interested? Thanks for the response!
Thanks! Which course is it?
I do not want to invest any time into this right now. My priorities shifted :) wiki.osdev.org has some good resources as well.
This is for an OS Development course! Also I wouldn't expect anything from you! I would just collect the information in an online source that you could access (if you wanted, you would also be free to entirely ignore it :))
Great post, I have learning a lot from it, only two things:
Again great post so far, I'll keep learning from this in the next sections.
Fixed, thank you!
Glad you figured it out :) Happy to accept a PR :)
My question is, how in the past, OS was build without tooling, like nasm and etc... How for example u will load the kernel main function in the past without linker... How u can build simple bootloader, without this tools, ok maybe QEMU can stay, but without all other tools...
I guess it all started with a programmable computer and then people started building stuff. As soon as somebody "invented" assembler, you could use that to build a C compiler and linker. Then you could rewrite the compiler in C and compile it with the assembly compiler.
People used what they have and in parallel built more tools / abstractions to make it easier to build complex systems. The problem with that is that every layer of abstraction might make it easier to write a piece of software, but it does not make it simpler. The complexity is still there.
And building an operating system is not an easy task. I mean there are thousands of developers busy doing that since decades and you are still lucky if your printer or scanner works...
makefile is error
my os is ubuntu and how makefile start?
console:makefile:9: *** missing separator. Stop.
why?
I wrote the makefile on Mac. Never tested it on Ubuntu :)
Please test the makefile in Ubuntu and create a new makefile for Ubuntu in the repository.
Why don't you do it?
For anyone else following along getting this error, a quick Google shows that makefiles do not like spaces for tabs. So you have to convert all spaced indents to tabbed indents before running
make.Source: stackoverflow.com/questions/169317...
Cool! Happy to accept a PR if that helps folks :)
Im using windows 10 and ubuntu on wsl and makefile dosent work and i am pretty new to makefiles. Can i find ubuntu version of makefile anywhere or how to "build" this manually?
Have you tried dev.to/seanld/comment/1fi4k? It's a shame that noone submitted a pull request to fix it, yet.
Yeah i have fixed that but i get this message
"nasm mbr.asm -f bin -o mbr.bin
make: nasm: Command not found
make: *** [Makefile:18: mbr.bin] Error 127"
and i haven't found how to fix it.
I fixed that by putting nasm to path variable but i got another error message that say " cannot perform PE operations on non PE output file 'kernel.bin'." Somehow the make file did run without errors but the screen flickers and start over.
Yeah welcome to OS development :D Dealing with stuff that doesn't work as expected was my daily routine when I wrote this series :)
Yeah, i will try to troubleshoot it but thanks for responses.
When I tried the makefile part this is what I got:
Makefile:9: *** missing separator. Stop.
Hm... Might be that I screwed something up there. You could check the source code for a version that was at least working on my Mac.
If you find the problem feel free to report back so I can fix it :)
kernel-entry.o : kernel-entry.asm
nasm $
^
|
Erase this blank and write a tab
Great detailed post! Will have to read it later.
Quick question, might be missing something:
You set your bp register to 0x9000 with the explanation that this is the bottom of the stack. We then set the sp register to the same.
Now, since the sp register is at 0x9000, that means that the first push instruction would decrement the sp by 4 and then load the contents at that address (which would be 0x8FFC).
I've been cross referencing this wonderful guide with other web resources. One of them I found was here
eecs.wsu.edu/~cs460/cs560/booter.html
and another
0xax.gitbooks.io/linux-insides/con...
Both of which describe a memory space with a section starting at 0x9000 that can be used for "stack space".
But if we set sp to 0x9000, wouldn't then our push put the SP into the memory space below that, in the kernel reserved space?
If the kernel is light, this probably isn't an issue (I've cloned your repo and added my own C code so I know this works).
However, given the other references, should we not aim to prevent the stack from going into the addresses below 0x9000?
I'd appreciate your insight. Thanks so much.
For some reason it doesn't work for me :(
After I combined mbr.bin and kernel.bin -> threw it into ultraiso and specified it as "bootable" -> launched it on qemu, nothing happens. I checked and the problem turned out to be in the kernel boot. For some reason, the disk_error error crashes and infinity loop.
But the post is good! I enjoyed it
Sorry! Yeah the setup appears to be quite flaky :(
I have a question, How big were ur binary files?
Once i link kernel_entry and kernel, the binary explodes to 130 mb when the original object files are less than a few thousand kilobytes
I don't remember but it was definitely small enough to fit into the amount of bytes I was reading in my bootloader and I'm pretty sure this wasn't 130 MB. Are you by any chance including the standard library or smth?
I fixed that issue... It was a problem as I was not using a cross compiler for compilation and something went weird
This is an awesome article. Thank you Frank! Something about writing code as close to bare-bones as possible makes programming enjoyable again for me. Thanks for being concise, yet informative.
Glad you liked it!
Cool!!! It's much useful for me, thanks very much~~~~
Thank you for your great post!! Keep up your good work!
Thanks for sharing! I've been looking for some more exposure to systems programming. You've inspired me to also attempt to make an OS from scratch.
Good luck!
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Hi there ! It's running fine with qemu but yes we have to add the--no-pie command while compiling with gcc. The main problem is that it is not working on a real machine and just on qemu
how to add welcoming message to the bootloader when load
I leave that as an exercise to you!
hello i am having an issue, in qemu it says:
Boot failed: could not read the boot disk
Booting from floppy
(And takes forever)
Do you have the code uploaded to a repository? I could clone it and see what the issue might be.
Remove -fda in makefile