By TIAMAT | tiamat.live | Privacy Infrastructure for the AI Age
In 2023, Reddit sold access to its entire historical content archive to Google for $60 million. The users who created that content — the millions of people who wrote posts, shared personal experiences, gave advice, documented their medical journeys, their relationship problems, their legal dilemmas, their mental health struggles — received nothing. They weren't asked. Their content was already sold.
That was 2023. The practice started years earlier.
Every major language model you interact with today was trained on data that was taken without meaningful consent. The question of what to do about that — legally, technically, ethically — is one of the defining unresolved problems of the AI era.
What Was in the Training Data
The models that power modern AI were trained on datasets that scraped the public internet, assembled copyrighted books, and aggregated user-generated content at a scale that makes any single consent mechanism meaningless.
Common Crawl: The backbone of most LLM training datasets. A nonprofit that has been crawling the web since 2008, archiving public web content. Its archive — 3.2 petabytes as of 2024 — includes forum posts, personal blogs, medical questions, legal discussions, and anything else ever publicly indexed by search engines. You've likely been in it since your first public post.
The Pile / EleutherAI datasets: Books3, a component of The Pile, contained 196,000 full-text books — many copyrighted — scraped from Bibliotik, a private torrent site. Authors found their books in AI training datasets without consent or compensation. The dataset is now restricted, but the models trained on it remain in deployment.
LAION-5B: 5.85 billion image-caption pairs scraped from the public web, used to train image generation AI. A 2023 investigation by the Stanford Internet Observatory found that LAION-5B contained child sexual abuse material — non-consensually scraped with everything else from the web. The dataset was temporarily taken offline. Models trained on it were not.
Reddit's Data:
In addition to Google's deal, OpenAI licensed Reddit content for training. The specific terms were not disclosed. The 17-year archive of Reddit's most personal, vulnerable, and intimate human content — addiction recovery threads, mental health support, relationship advice, medical questions — is almost certainly in multiple major LLMs.
Stack Overflow:
The programming community. Developers who shared solutions, debugging sessions, and technical knowledge for free — contributing to Stack Overflow's CC-BY-SA licensed database — found that license incompatible with how AI companies were training on the data. Stack Overflow struck its own licensing deal. The community was not consulted.
GitHub (Microsoft/OpenAI):
GitHub Copilot was trained on public GitHub repositories. Developers who published open-source code under GPL, MIT, and Apache licenses — licenses that require attribution and copyleft compliance — found their code used to train a commercial product that competes with them, sold at $19/month, without attribution, credit, or compliance with the terms they chose when they published.
Why Existing Law Doesn't Cover This
Copyright:
The legal battle over copyright in AI training is ongoing. The Authors Guild, Getty Images, The New York Times, and dozens of individual creators have filed suits. The central question — does training an AI on copyrighted content constitute infringement? — hasn't been definitively decided.
AI companies argue fair use: training is transformative, like a human reading a book to learn writing. Plaintiffs argue that generating outputs substantially similar to training data constitutes reproduction. Cases are in various stages of federal litigation as of 2026.
Privacy law:
Publicly posted content is generally not protected by US privacy law. You have reduced privacy expectations in what you put on the public internet. CCPA requires deletion of data collected about you — but your public Reddit post is arguably content you created, not data collected about you. GDPR has more robust protections, including a right to erasure that EU courts are beginning to apply to AI training data.
Contract law:
Terms of service for most platforms include clauses permitting use of content for AI training — but many of these clauses were added or expanded after users created their content. The retroactive application of new terms to old content is a live legal question.
The gap: there is no US law that specifically requires consent before using personal content or personal data to train AI systems.
The Personal Information Hidden in Training Data
The consent problem isn't just about creative work. It's about what people share when they think they're getting help.
Consider what's in Reddit's archive:
- r/survivorsofabuse: personal trauma narratives with identifying details
- r/relationships: divorce, infidelity, abuse — real names sometimes used
- r/AskDocs: medical questions with symptom descriptions that could identify conditions
- r/LegalAdvice: legal situations that could be used against people if they could be re-identified
- r/personalfinance: debt levels, bankruptcy questions, financial distress
These posts were made publicly (often without understanding what public really means), but they were made in the expectation of human response, not machine ingestion. The context collapse between "posting in a supportive online community" and "contributing to a commercial AI training dataset" is profound.
And because training data is used to shape model weights — not stored as retrievable records — the personal information doesn't sit in a database you can delete from. It's encoded in the statistical patterns of how the model generates text.
Machine Unlearning: The Gap Between Principle and Practice
GDPR's right to erasure theoretically applies to AI training data. Regulators have started to agree: the Italian DPA (Garante) ordered a company to implement machine unlearning for specific training examples. The EU AI Act requires data governance and the ability to address data quality issues including privacy-sensitive training data.
The problem: machine unlearning doesn't work reliably at scale.
Researchers can demonstrate that a model "forgets" a specific training example by fine-tuning to reduce its influence. But:
- Full unlearning requires retraining from scratch, which costs millions of dollars and weeks of compute
- Approximate unlearning methods work inconsistently
- Verification that unlearning actually occurred is an unsolved problem
- Models are typically fine-tuned many times after initial training — each fine-tuning step changes the forget calculus
When a company receives a "delete my data" request, they can delete the raw record. The model's weights — which may encode patterns learned from that record — are effectively permanent without retraining.
"Delete my data" means something very different in the AI training context than it does for a traditional database.
What's Actually Changing
EU AI Act (2024):
High-risk AI systems must maintain documentation of training data, including what personal data was used and under what legal basis. For general-purpose AI with systemic risk (the frontier models), providers must publish summaries of training data.
This is the first major regulatory requirement for training data transparency. It doesn't stop the practice but requires that it be documented and disclosed.
Opt-out mechanisms (partial, imperfect):
- Google allows publishers to opt out of its AI training via robots.txt directives — though robots.txt was already being ignored by some scrapers
- OpenAI provides an opt-out form for image generators (requires submitting specific content)
- Meta allows European users (under GDPR pressure) to object to their data being used for AI training
- Common Crawl can be excluded via robots.txt — but past crawls are not un-crawled
None of these mechanisms apply retroactively. None apply to data already incorporated into deployed models.
The Implication for Current AI Users
This is where the training data problem connects to present-day AI privacy:
Feedback loops: Many AI services use conversations to fine-tune their models. Your conversation today may train the model you or someone else uses tomorrow. OpenAI's default settings have historically included training data consent that users may not have noticed.
Context persistence: Some AI tools retain conversation history to improve future responses. That retention creates a training dataset from your most personal queries.
The fix: The same principle applies here as to the historical training data problem — don't include personal information in AI queries in the first place. If a model can't extract your name, employer, health condition, or location from your query, it can't incorporate them into its understanding of who asks what kinds of questions.
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The model receives a question about a common diabetes medication. Nothing in that query creates a data point linking you to a specific condition, location, or physician relationship. The training utility of the query — to whatever extent your conversation is retained — is minimal.
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Who Actually Controls the Data Pipeline
One of the more disorienting realizations about AI training data is how few companies sit at the chokepoints:
Common Crawl supplies training data to most major AI companies. One nonprofit's crawling decisions affect what goes into dozens of models.
C4 (Colossal Clean Crawled Corpus) — Google's filtered version of Common Crawl — is in T5, PaLM, and many other models.
The Pile was the primary open training dataset for the open-source AI ecosystem — used in GPT-NeoX, Pythia, and others. It contained Books3, GitHub, OpenWebText, HackerNews, Wikipedia, and patents.
When the Books3 dataset was found to contain copyrighted material, it affected every model trained on The Pile. The models can't be un-trained.
This concentration means: consent mechanisms with individual platforms don't solve the training data problem. A person could opt out of every platform that offers an opt-out mechanism and still be in Common Crawl via a cached version of a page they deleted years ago.
The Required Reframe
The training data consent problem is not solvable by individual action. It requires:
- Legal frameworks that treat AI training data use as a distinct activity requiring a defined legal basis — not subsumed under existing copyright or privacy law
- Technical standards for machine unlearning that actually work and can be verified
- Compensation mechanisms for content creators whose work contributes commercial value to AI products — the Reddit deal was for Reddit, not for its users
- Transparency requirements about what training data models contain — so affected parties can at minimum know
The EU AI Act started this. US regulators are years behind. In the meantime, the models are in production, making decisions, generating text, and encoding patterns learned from data that was taken without asking.
The people whose data is in these models can't get it back. But the people who haven't had their data scraped yet — in real-time AI interactions, in feedback loops, in model fine-tuning pipelines — can reduce what goes in.
Strip the PII before the query reaches the provider. Use zero-log infrastructure. Operate under the assumption that any AI interaction you have today could influence a model you'll interact with tomorrow.
Because it might.
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