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I see too much focus on oppressing woman which is usually what they always push and I got to say it's quite unfair stance. Do you see any male oppressed for working harder than others yet not being too sympathetic towards people setting their private lives over job that has to be done? No, because no one focuses. Have you ever questioned that some of them would love as well to be with their family but have a sense of responsibility towards job and sacrifice family obligations towards it yet get under the label of not a cultural fit and being pushed by the collegues? I gotta tell you I've been working in teams where I had email proofs of how ignores and disrispected I was because I pointed out mistakes as a system architect and backend developer. Quite literally no sense of professional responsibility from their side nor respect towards my years of experience compared to a non programmer and juniors one of which was a woman (although not married nor had kids). Guess what happened, she did admit she felt oppressed a bit in the beginning. Then she left by first call to much bigger company. I left a year after. The guy that came to replace me quit couple of months after. Does this indicate something? Yeah she was the oppressor including others.

You've picked your options to be a good mother. They picked theres to not have a family or whatever. Don't yell unfair on people not adjusting to your timeline its completely unfair to all the others. If you can't make it and people say it's OK why not br happy about it? I'm removing myself from as much meetings as possible them pushing younger devs, yes especially woman into more obligations hoping they will take over my place and all because I'm hoping to expand family. Am I oppressed for picking time and letting my "carrer" go down? No, I'm picking my side as a family man and risking income. So be more just with the words and be more fair to others. They also have time issues.

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Cher • Edited

I've hidden your reply because it's strange and out of place.

I happened to share Tessa's story (a woman) and my story (also a woman). I'm not "focusing on women". I AM a woman.

It's strange to me that you're arguing about whether or not folks have family or not. No one should be discriminated against or harassed, and no one should be oppressed into silence over those things (or other ethics violations).

I'm happy to have a conversation about Non-Disparagement agreements, but that's not what you are doing.

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Sure, I pointed out some portion of your unfairness in text and best repsponse is cancel culture. You feel "offended" because there's a slight disagreement from somene yet again mark it as "out of place". It's good to know there's no room for disagreement so I'll be sure to not ever comment on your posts.

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My post is about Non-Disparagement Agreements being used to silence employees that have been discriminated against, or have witnessed unethical practices.

I don't feel "offended" - I feel your comment is out of place because it steered away from the topic to centering yourself in a way that claimed I was doing something that I was not.

It isn't about disagreement, it's about responding with complete nonsense that has absolutely nothing to do with the important topic I'm discussing.

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And my comment was that you don't see that it's actually putting a point on a discrimination against woman. Not about centering myself but to try to make you see that there's a lot of text focusing on it and steering itself away from the topic. In any case you have the right to hide the comment and I have the right to mark the post as low quality as a bit pusing towards something that you did not intend as a topic. Not fully just enough to have my reaction to it.

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Haris, I am a woman. Tessa is a woman.

We were both discriminated against as MOTHERS, which is why I specifically said PARENTS.

Your knee-jerk reaction comes from within you, not me. I communicated my point just fine.

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