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Jenna King

Exactly one of the reasons I didn't pursue computer science when at university. I took a few programming classes and while I loved it, being the only woman in my classes was intimidating and isolating. And the 'oh you don't know this already' looks were prevalent back then too. So, major props to you! Keep it up, the rewards down the road will be great.

If I could go back in time, I would have stuck with it, and push back on the differential treatment by speaking up. I do now, in work environment that are predominately male and conservative, and it's gotten me more respect along the way.

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Katie Adams • Edited

I'm sorry that the toxicity of the classes put you off. It's an unfortunate story around the world. I recently read a New York Times article that really delves into the gender imbalance in computing. It mentions this sort of attitude and really puts into perspective why girls are put off of the subject when we used to run this industry. It uses university studies that were done only a few years ago. Ironically enough, it's now reached a point where as many people ask me for help as I do them. It's an opportunity to turn things around by not stooping to their level, by making change from the front lines.

I wouldn't worry too much about going back in time. There's so many courses and information online that almost anybody can learn coding these days. I hope you continue to keep up with it though!

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πŸ¦„N BπŸ›‘ • Edited

'oh you don't know this already'

I've gotten this all the time, and still do.

I think the only time I've given that look was when a supposed "AWS Architect" struggled to deploy a single ec2 instance, and had to suppress just such a look when a supposed "Hands-on Linux CI/CD expert" didn't know how to navigate around folders in Linux. I had to introduce the cd command.

Incompetence I can relate to, given my own mediocre abilities, but people lying to me that they're some kind of expert without even having done a web search about a topic really chaps my ass.

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Katie Adams

It's so exhausting, isn't it? Though I'll admit I'd not considered the other perspective on quite that way. I'm glad you brought it up!