As someone who is more of a React dev but also has some experience with Angular and others I agree with your point. Lack of standards and flexibility is a double-edged sword for react apps.
With React the above is simply not true, because each React developer has his own favourite HTTP client, he's got his own favourite widget library, he's got his own favourite "whatever" library, resulting in that you'd rarely find two codebases with similarities at all.
It gets even worse when instead of using some popular library for some common problem they go with “we will make our own solution”. And this “solution” at least in most cases I’ve seen after a couple years later turns into “there is some shitty, undocumented piece of code some guys that don’t work here anymore wrote and we can’t just refactor it because all of the project is dependent on it and if we change something in there, many unforeseen bugs may come up”. So new functionality is being piled up on that as they go making it even worse.
Now that being said I’ve also seen similar situations in Angular projects I worked on (which aren’t that many) where the devs have just completely missed the point of some pattern and butchered it in such a way it’s just unbelievable. But of course I’m sure there are good Angular projects and developers.
My experience in all Angular or AngularJs projects: developers didn't know the standards + didn't "have time for search for the patterns of Angular". Outcome: crazy custom convoluted patterns and solutions doing what Angular already does (with their standards), so they ended up under using Angular. With workarounds including creation of handful useless files, like empty services, providers, views, controllers or whatever Angular likes to call them.
My feeling: Angular is a crap that forces devs to create 25 files for a "hello new page with i18n and infinite scroller and a custom layout".
But of course, that was my experience with lousy Angular developers. Because they were not Angular developers but "full stack developers" with PHP or .Net background (No JS background, of course... so you can expect a lot of "class" objects). Angular is as bad as the developers implementing it.
The difference with React, in my opinion, is that React is a library that extends JS with HTML (JSX) and extends JS with CSSinJS (Styled-Components). So at the end of the day I become a better JS developer (with functional programming approach, btw, because JS is not good for OOP and "this" and "class"), which will improve my coding skills.
Angular on the other hand, extends HTML with logic tricks (ng-for) which do "black magic behind the scenes" and devs can get better in Angular, but not necessarily better JS programmers (or Engineers).
I honestly prefer to become a good JavaScript developer, which will also help me to be a better programmer in any language (FE or BE), than being a good Angular developer.
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As someone who is more of a React dev but also has some experience with Angular and others I agree with your point. Lack of standards and flexibility is a double-edged sword for react apps.
It gets even worse when instead of using some popular library for some common problem they go with “we will make our own solution”. And this “solution” at least in most cases I’ve seen after a couple years later turns into “there is some shitty, undocumented piece of code some guys that don’t work here anymore wrote and we can’t just refactor it because all of the project is dependent on it and if we change something in there, many unforeseen bugs may come up”. So new functionality is being piled up on that as they go making it even worse.
Now that being said I’ve also seen similar situations in Angular projects I worked on (which aren’t that many) where the devs have just completely missed the point of some pattern and butchered it in such a way it’s just unbelievable. But of course I’m sure there are good Angular projects and developers.
Thank you 😊
My experience in all Angular or AngularJs projects: developers didn't know the standards + didn't "have time for search for the patterns of Angular". Outcome: crazy custom convoluted patterns and solutions doing what Angular already does (with their standards), so they ended up under using Angular. With workarounds including creation of handful useless files, like empty services, providers, views, controllers or whatever Angular likes to call them.
My feeling: Angular is a crap that forces devs to create 25 files for a "hello new page with i18n and infinite scroller and a custom layout".
But of course, that was my experience with lousy Angular developers. Because they were not Angular developers but "full stack developers" with PHP or .Net background (No JS background, of course... so you can expect a lot of "class" objects). Angular is as bad as the developers implementing it.
The difference with React, in my opinion, is that React is a library that extends JS with HTML (JSX) and extends JS with CSSinJS (Styled-Components). So at the end of the day I become a better JS developer (with functional programming approach, btw, because JS is not good for OOP and "this" and "class"), which will improve my coding skills.
Angular on the other hand, extends HTML with logic tricks (ng-for) which do "black magic behind the scenes" and devs can get better in Angular, but not necessarily better JS programmers (or Engineers).
I honestly prefer to become a good JavaScript developer, which will also help me to be a better programmer in any language (FE or BE), than being a good Angular developer.