The company or your colleagues do not set these expectations! They are set by you! When you join a company, you are an unwritten page, and the only person who can write on that page is you!
What? Haven't you signed an employee's agreement? It's all there. Expectations and everything.
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Yeah indeed this post is full of stereotypes:
On your first day, decide what kind of guy you want to be? The 9 to 17 guy or the one who is staying longer.
There are no two different types of guys. Both are equal although you wouldn't want to be in an environment where they expect you to stay longer hours (unless there is some kind of an optional bonus scheme). In my current company, there is one where people can choose to stay longer to answer to support tickets and they will get paid extra. If you choose not to, it is just fine.
I understand the author's passion though, I was like that once. I wanted to differentiate from my colleagues and often times I would choose ways like that to do it, like staying longer just to prove that I "care more than the others". That kind of thinking is toxic though. The same author writes below Be a team player and that's the exact opposite of being a team player.
The point was that you will set social expectations.
No contract can handle this.
I have seen people work from 8am to 8pm o clock without any pressure from outside or get any extra bonus.
If you do that long enough you will set a standard for yourself and if you don't work as you would normal do. People will ask why and what happened ect etc.
That was my point
BTW: you can call it stereotypes or extremes. I call it making my point easier to understand. Writing about the middle default dev is kind of boring for the reader.
Thank you for clarifying, although I still don't get your point about social expectations. Yes if someone sees that you are online at 11am and working, they are probably going to ask you. What's your point?
Writing about the middle default dev is kind of boring for the reader
So what are you trying to write about if not the "middle default dev"? The 10x dev? But you are not calling that a stereotype?
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What? Haven't you signed an employee's agreement? It's all there. Expectations and everything.
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Yeah indeed this post is full of stereotypes:
There are no two different types of guys. Both are equal although you wouldn't want to be in an environment where they expect you to stay longer hours (unless there is some kind of an optional bonus scheme). In my current company, there is one where people can choose to stay longer to answer to support tickets and they will get paid extra. If you choose not to, it is just fine.
I understand the author's passion though, I was like that once. I wanted to differentiate from my colleagues and often times I would choose ways like that to do it, like staying longer just to prove that I "care more than the others". That kind of thinking is toxic though. The same author writes below Be a team player and that's the exact opposite of being a team player.
I'm a 9 am to 5 pm guy myself ;)
The point was that you will set social expectations.
No contract can handle this.
I have seen people work from 8am to 8pm o clock without any pressure from outside or get any extra bonus.
If you do that long enough you will set a standard for yourself and if you don't work as you would normal do. People will ask why and what happened ect etc.
That was my point
BTW: you can call it stereotypes or extremes. I call it making my point easier to understand. Writing about the middle default dev is kind of boring for the reader.
Thank you for clarifying, although I still don't get your point about social expectations. Yes if someone sees that you are online at 11am and working, they are probably going to ask you. What's your point?
So what are you trying to write about if not the "middle default dev"? The 10x dev? But you are not calling that a stereotype?