re: ... Or how I learned to stop worrying and love the magic VIEW POST


Spring Boot is really awesome. Once you understand how it works (the answer is either "component scan" or "dynamic proxies" 95% of the time...) you could technically implement it yourself. The concepts are not too crazy. But Spring does a really good job. I've been continuously using it for 3 or 4 years now and have very little to complain about. When it comes to building trust into the Spring framework specifically, the nice thing is that there is a huge community behind it. No matter how obscure your problem may seem, there's very likely a stack overflow answer for it. And if there isn't, a well formulated question usually receives an answer within a couple of hours. The other aspect is that Spring is designed to be extremely configurable. So if you don't like a certain part of it - well, swap it out for something else!

All of that being said, Spring Data really IS black magic (i.e. runtime byte code generation) but hasn't failed me yet. Spring Security has a harmless look to it, but boy, try to debug why your call is being rejected, it's like searching for the literal needle in the haystack.

Overall I still like Spring a lot, in particular in combination with Spring Boot. That wasn't always the case. I hated it passionately when I first got into contact with it. The key turning point for me was when I realized how the IoC container principle worked and - in particular - how to properly USE it and when not to use it (the latter part took me a really long while!). From that point onward, everything else kind of followed and made sense to me. I haven't ever looked back since then.


I'll be honest, I tend to have the opposite problem with Spring.

Their stuff generally just works. Their documentation is fantastic. They have examples of most things that are easy to understand.

This means that when I have a problem with it, it's often one that hasn't come up before and doesn't have a simple answer. Because if it did then it would be in the aforementioned documentation or examples.

I've even had to raise bugs against Spring because of exactly this - wanting to do something that should work but didn't... (And, generally speaking, they're very fast to respond to those too)

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