Hi Mark, thank you for your thoughtful and inspiring answer. BTW, I really admire the work you are doing with Redux and Redux Toolkit.
I also believe that React is a solid technology and probably the best choice for most projects today. I also agree that there isn't just one problem, but many different ones. I attempted to highlight two, but I hope you will write that “giant post”, clearly separating them in a much better way than I could.
As for “complexity is not brand-new”, you are right. I also used to configure Webpack before CRA. I also created a full SSR framework in 2016, before the advent of Next.js (still used today by hundreds of pharmacy e-commerce websites in Italy), solving complex issues now hidden by frameworks. The fact is that, with complexity hidden by CRA, and then frameworks, you don’t have to cope with it during development (let’s say after the first period when you had to “eject” CRA for anything…). Now with RSC, the complexity becomes an ongoing challenge throughout the entire project development.
I also agree that nothing has been taken away. You can use React with Vite, or you can use Next.js with Pages. However, I can assure you that many potential customers, especially digital agencies, have expressed that they would not even consider using our React Bricks library if they couldn't use it with the Next App folder. So, the FOMO pressure is high.
For the Community Framework, I personally would never take on such a project :) It’s far beyond my capacity and time. Considering the magnitude of the effort, I believe that a stable steering committee setting goals is needed, and it should be financially supported. Without a big sponsoring company, financial support from the community would be needed. Projects like TanStack have multiple sponsoring companies, but I envision it more like a legally constituted no-profit association with its steering committee, where anybody in the community could become a Member of the association, paying a small annual fee, which would cover the expenses associated with the committee. Does it make any sense? Is it utopian?
I am also completely involved in React and the ecosystem with absolutely no plans to switch. And I am positive about the future.
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Hi Mark, thank you for your thoughtful and inspiring answer. BTW, I really admire the work you are doing with Redux and Redux Toolkit.
I also believe that React is a solid technology and probably the best choice for most projects today. I also agree that there isn't just one problem, but many different ones. I attempted to highlight two, but I hope you will write that “giant post”, clearly separating them in a much better way than I could.
As for “complexity is not brand-new”, you are right. I also used to configure Webpack before CRA. I also created a full SSR framework in 2016, before the advent of Next.js (still used today by hundreds of pharmacy e-commerce websites in Italy), solving complex issues now hidden by frameworks. The fact is that, with complexity hidden by CRA, and then frameworks, you don’t have to cope with it during development (let’s say after the first period when you had to “eject” CRA for anything…). Now with RSC, the complexity becomes an ongoing challenge throughout the entire project development.
I also agree that nothing has been taken away. You can use React with Vite, or you can use Next.js with Pages. However, I can assure you that many potential customers, especially digital agencies, have expressed that they would not even consider using our React Bricks library if they couldn't use it with the Next App folder. So, the FOMO pressure is high.
For the Community Framework, I personally would never take on such a project :) It’s far beyond my capacity and time. Considering the magnitude of the effort, I believe that a stable steering committee setting goals is needed, and it should be financially supported. Without a big sponsoring company, financial support from the community would be needed. Projects like TanStack have multiple sponsoring companies, but I envision it more like a legally constituted no-profit association with its steering committee, where anybody in the community could become a Member of the association, paying a small annual fee, which would cover the expenses associated with the committee. Does it make any sense? Is it utopian?
I am also completely involved in React and the ecosystem with absolutely no plans to switch. And I am positive about the future.