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Rohan Salunke Author

First of, apologies if that sounds rude.
"stupid practices" that developers do
I'm pointing the "practices to be stupid", I don't think so I called the folks stupid nor did I meant that.

PS: I might still be wrong here, English is not my first language. Also I hope you're not taking the sentence personally 😅

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Hugo Pineda

I don’t know what would be your native language in which saying that people makes “stupid practices” is not insulting. May I assume calling this article “stupid” doesn’t bother you?

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Rohan Salunke Author

Yes it won't bother me if it was stupid.
Feel free to report abuse if you think this article is stupid.

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Jason Bunting

Seriously, don't let these people get to you - insult, offense, etc. are not something done to us, but something we allow based on our reactions. I like to illustrate this with a short story:

I once taught a Sunday School class to some teenagers. I was writing on a chalkboard with chalk, and it broke. I let slip the word "damn" when it happened, and a girl took offense to it. I asked her, "does the word 'darn' offend you?" She said no. I said "why? There's only a difference of one simple letter between those two words. What makes one offensive and one not? What if I had said 'kurwa' (a Polish swear word she had no knowledge of) instead? Would that offend you?" She said no. And I proceeded to tell her it was a much more "offensive" word than "damn" or "darn." I tried to help her realize, the mental state she was in was what made the word offensive, not my using it.

So many have ostensibly given their power to other people, and then demand those other people behave a certain way, further illustrating that they will continue to give that power to them. So mind-blowing. So stupid and ignorant. :P

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Rohan Salunke Author

Thanks! This really helps me deal with ignorant and unnecessary hate. Although, I always try to be a reasonable person and understand if I was wrong at any point. People really need to stop bothering other people with their ways :/

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Ashlee (she/her)

See:

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Rohan Salunke Author • Edited

Impact is contextual from person to person. Still feel free to report abuse or reply with a sentence that could be replaced in the article. I'm open to edit the article and replace potentially harmful language.

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Ashlee (she/her)

I've already linked a sentence. Start off by reading about ableist language and then remove it from your article. After that, work on making this article less about insulting to people who may be like these "stereotypes" you've listed and more about teaching people how to become better developers.

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Rohan Salunke Author

Very Helpful, Thank you!😇

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Joe P.C. • Edited

I have my trigger words, but saying an act is "stupid" or "foolish" is different when a person directly calls you "stupid." Personally, I would write that something is a "bad practice," but that's just my style. I come from a jQuery and Vanilla JS background, so I appreciate someone guiding my way, even with strong wording. I would think it's insulting to assume that "stupid" should be a trigger word for those who have disabilities. I worked with an programmer who was an amputee who used the word, "lame," although I would never use that word myself around him (and try not to in general). Obviously, he meant it to say something was "foolish." I have children, so I substitute the word "silly" for "stupid," but when I'm speaking with my wife, we use the word "stupid," for example, to describe some kind of harmful or useless policy.

I love this article: skepchick.org/2014/02/insults-slur...

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Jason Bunting

Seriously, there are so many people who abdicate their responsibility to own their reactions. The world, the weather, the randomness of our universe, etc. are not going to take into consideration one's feelings - so, the very obvious answer is to own one's reactions and realize one's freedom from "trauma" or "pain" comes down to cultivating one's ability to control one's perceptions. Nice people are nice, no doubt, but when someone "offends" you, realize where that offense took place: within you. If you truly "give no fucks," no one can hurt you, and that's when you have true power. Telling someone to learn how to talk differently so that you don't have hurt feelings is the most powerless position to be in.

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Ashlee (she/her)

You seem to really think your opinion is important since you’ve replied at least three times here to say the same thing over and over again. Which is that you think people should be able to say whatever they want and that whoever they’re saying it to should just deal with it. Being kind is free, by the way.

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Jason Bunting

You seem to really think your opinion is important since you’ve replied
at least three times here to say the same thing over and over again.

Looking over your own comments on this article, it's almost like you're describing yourself. Weird how that works, right? It's fascinating to observe our own behaviors and wonder why we do the things we do... "Know thyself"

Which is that you think people should be able to say whatever they want

Yes! Isn't that beautiful? That we can have freedom to say whatever we want? Some even felt it was so important, that they made it one of the rights governments seek to protect above all other rights. Seems brilliant to me. All should have the same freedom, but it seems odd that some would use that very freedom to tell others with the same that they shouldn't use it. But, that's freedom! Just gotta ignore those people, I suppose...

...and that whoever they’re saying it to should just deal with it.

Yes, they should. What if you didn't like the sound of birds, or the wind? What if a bird was chirping really loudly and the wind blowing fiercely while you were dealing with insomnia? That would suck, but you wouldn't realistically think that those things should heed your pleas to go silent, right? I mean, if you could control that, you'd end up feeling very alone... If all could be controlled by your command, you'd be more alone than you can even imagine.

Being kind is free, by the way.

Also a tender mercy of life, yes! The issue, as it is with all words, which are symbols for subjective abstract concepts, is that what being "kind" means is different for each person. Nick Lowe, for example, famously sang...

You've gotta be cruel to be kind, in the right measure
Cruel to be kind, it's a very good sign
Cruel to be kind, means that I love you, baby
(You've gotta be cruel)
You gotta be cruel to be kind

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Ashlee (she/her)

Look. Right to free speech was not created for the internet. It was created so the government couldn't silence you. I'm not debating with you whether or not people should be allowed to be abusive on the internet. There's nothing to debate. Sites have Code of Conducts for a reason and that reason is so everyone can peacefully and safely exist together on the internet.

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