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re: Hasn't this discussion started with @ar10642 claiming that this was to be ended because "nobody needed that"? :-) Well, "nobody" is probably a hy...

I guess in a few years he'll be right ;-)

Or I will, claiming that pure tablets will be gone by then. Ha!

can I use this with one hand

I have never used mine with one hand, except for reading the time. I probably use it wrong. :-)

there are plenty of non-iPhones with huge screens :D

My OnePlus 5T - the last good OnePlus device - has 5.99" to be precise enough and I guess my next one may be an iPhone, given that good Android devices become more limited and more expensive every year anyway. But this might be a separate discussion.

I guess my next one may be an iPhone, given that good Android devices become more limited and more expensive every year anyway

Yeah, I think I'm going with an iPhone next. My current phone is a Nexus 5X with a 5.2" inch screen. Premium Androids are not that interesting anymore (maybe except the Google Pixel 3's camera) and I've only had bad experiences with Samsung phones.

But this might be a separate discussion.

yup

That's my point. Desktop is niche now, and for good reasons. If that's your niche, great. But the idea that the rest of us are overlooking something (presumably because we're stupid or something) is false.

Also, I doubt I understand how developers might ever consider iPhone and/or well-branded GAndroid. Are not we supposed to think about privacy and robustness more than about branding, are we?

I am buying Chinese flagships for $200 at most every year, immediately flash them with LineageOS and I could never be happy.

"The rest of you" are probably also in my "niche". You should not speak for everyone.

Are not we supposed to think about privacy and robustness more than about branding, are we?

And in terms of privacy and robustness, Apple's reputation is notably better than Google's as Google makes most of its money with "personalized advertising" and I know of no single Android device that gets official updates five years after its release.

Apple's reputation is notably better than Google's

Correction: Apple pays more attention to that particular aspect and Apple’s lawyers are better trained for this particular aspect.

I know of no single Android device

You don’t hear me. LineageOS. Official updates, including critical ones every week, forever. I tested it on my HTC One, 7 years old. LineageOS based on Android 7 was flashed flawlessly in 10 mins.

Apple pays more attention to that particular aspect

And iOS has been found relatively safe when confronted with the desires of law enforcement.

You don’t hear me. LineageOS.

You don't hear me. LineageOS will void your warranty on most Android devices, it is not an officially supported system on most Android devices. Those which "support" it (OnePlus does it, for example) will still be out of service after a year or two.

Show me one Android device with software updates from its vendor that was made in 2013 and did not make you void your warranty to achieve that.

Show me [...]

Why would I show you anything? Why would I need a warranty if for my whole life I never used it for mobile? I can do the math and void warranty costs nothing (unless your phone manufacturer throttles and makes other nasty things or unless I must use 1Oyo devices.)

Do you need a warranty? Fine. It does not save you a dime, but if you need it, continue feeding Apple and G. No issue.

Well if you change a phone every 12 months and you get lucky then you might never need a warranty yeah.

But other people might need it :D

But other people might need it :D

Nope. Do the math yourself. Buying new phone when the old one gets throttled (let me guess: the latter is NOT a warranty case) is still cheaper in the average than paying your privacy for it.

Even if a phone gets once broken (and this is a warranty case, which is the extremely rare one,) it’s still cheaper to buy the new one instead of overpaying for the warranty for the whole life. Otherwise all the insurance companies would get bankrupt.

The thing is the health insurance makes sense because one usually cannot afford the required surgery. You pay for your patience. The phone is not something one cannot afford. Do the math, it always helps to make decisions.

Even if a phone gets once broken (...) it’s still cheaper to buy the new one

I wish I had your income.

Premium phones are north of 700€ right now, repairs don't usually cost as much. Also most people buy them with subscriptions so they aren't actually shelling the whole phone price up front.

Probably your math holds up with cheaper phones but still, regular people are not going to flash their own phones anytime soon so I feel this argument is a little pointless :-)

I wish I had your income.

If you were reading what I say, before throwing your arguments out, you might have noticed: I entered the thread with mentioning no-names.

Somewhat like this (I clicked the first item in DuckDuckGo search results.

Mine is slightly more expensive, for dual camera, 128G and 8 cores, but it’s still under $300.

Yes, I can afford this once when the phone gets broken by a warranty case (once per our life, actually, in average.)

This is the first link I found at DuckDuckGo that sells phones. BTW, I bought last four of my phones there.

Why would I show you anything?

You claimed that I was wrong. Now you admit that I was right because you misunderstood me. All is fine now. :-)

Do you need a warranty?

I needed one once and I was happy to have one. I'd like to be relatively sure that a device that costs me half a month's worth of money will theoretically be supported until I voluntarily replace it. Even CyanogenMod can't do that.

It does not save you a dime, but if you need it, continue feeding Apple and G.

I fail to understand your relatively rude tone now. Did I hurt you?

Now you admit that I was right because you misunderstood me.
I fail to understand your relatively rude tone now. Did I hurt you?

I fail to understand both how were you right and how my tone is rude.

how were you right

That no Android device has a warranty for officially supported OS updates even remotely as long as iPhones do.

how my tone is rude

I guessed so.

In the past 20 years I have only worked in companies that don't allow you to install any desktop apps (other than the one or two vendors all large corporates use but totally crippled). The current one I am contracting at has 200k people on over 70 jurisdictions and the desktop app is dead to them as unmanageable legacy they are trying to remove. Then there are all the startups and unicorns going web and mobile. So totally desktop is completely niche and has nothing to do in large corporate where it is banned and nothing to do with direct to consumer or mobile. If its massive in your ecology and seems like the universe then more power to you. Yet its been irrelevant for the corporations I have been in for 20 years and is irrelevant for the mobile first start ups.

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