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Matteo Vignoli

Did you try the latest Laravel on PHP 8.1 and Octane? PHP's bad name is diehard, but I'm assuring you that in the last 3-4 years it did such a jump forward, it's like saying ES6 is still shit because you think at jQuery

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LUKESHIRU

Yup, when a new version of PHP gets released, I generally take a look. I used to do web before Node was a thing, so I was familiar with PHP, and I was kinda exited when they introduced "arrow functions", but still.. The thing is that nowadays I prefer Node or even Deno, and that's not only because job offers are way better, but mainly because I just like to use the same language in the client side and in the server side.

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Julian H

But... That does not mean PHP is like jQuery UI. Not even legacy. Have you ever heard of Drupal for example? Cause you're just talking about personal preferences but missing the real picture

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LUKESHIRU

Drupal?!?! Even if you mention Wordpress instead of Drupal you're doing a better job advocating in favor of PHP. Drupal is and always was disgusting. At least other folks were mentioning stuff like Symphony, and you could add CakePHP and even CodeIgniter .... but Drupal?!?!

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Julian H

It's still a personal opinion if you say Drupal is horrible,does not mean it's not used or that it's not modern enough for people to use it. You made this a discussion about whether PHP is modern or not, not about what is disgusting about PHP Frameworks or CMSs

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LUKESHIRU

Yup, I said that in 2021 is kinda weird to talk about PHP ... you're the one who started a different conversation by bringing Drupal to the table, and from my PoV Drupal was never good and will never be, even if Node didn't existed.