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Discussion on: The 3-Second Frontend Developer Test

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GrahamTheDev • Edited

First thing I did was validate jimdo.com/ (not so great on the HTML front) then I found your personal page and all was good again 😋

My old site klu.io - passes both (which is quite surprising as I broke that site over a year ago and lost most of the content)!

We should start a club as I am sure sites that are valid are few and far between! 🤣

As for the article...I actually think this idea is genius! Valid HTML normally means a site is at least somewhat accessible and normally means it is somewhat SEO optimised too so it is a very quick "birds eye view" of a developer. Stealing this! ❤

The "15 second test" could include developers.google.com/speed/pagesp... (or web.dev/measure) and observatory.mozilla.org/ that way we can really separate the pack (I might be biased as I know klu.io will still do great in any of those tests 😋)!

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Jens Oliver Meiert

Thanks for the feedback! I can’t officially comment for Jimdo as I’ve been leaving them, but having been the engineering manager for jimdo.com I will say that valid output has been a priority for us, too.

(Interestingly, what jimdo.com—and other sites, too—may sometimes deal with is third-party code that “invalidates” the output. One may be surprised how hard it can be to get such problems fixed, even if one submits a patch.)

Valid output is not a guarantee for anything other than syntax correctness and a degree of conformance—a minimum expectation for a professional—, but you’re right, it does guard against other problems, too, including some around accessibility and search engine friendliness.

I love you suggesting other tests, then. It’s exactly the types of ideas and conversations we should be having 🙏

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GrahamTheDev

Ah so are you moving on to another company or branching out on your own?

Great point about third party code...it actually raises a really interesting question about the vetting process when choosing third party code! Do you add allowances or do you discount third party code that doesn’t align with your in house validation criteria.

Who would have thought a simple 3 second test would give me so much food for thought! ❤️