From time to time I've seen products like WebStorm, PyCharm, PhpStorm, Space, TeamCity, IntelliJ appearing in the tools list of some devs.
I've also aware their products are pretty pricey, knowing that nowadays you can find a free alternative for almost anything.
Have you ever tried any of their products and is the price/value ratio really good enough to use their stuff?
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I use their products quite a bit. I love WebStorm, though the performance of it can get pretty subpar, especially compared to VS Code. I don't believe WebStorm is as expensive as the others and they do offer discounts the longer you have a license. I believe it was $35 a year. PyCharm is pretty well used the Python community after VS Code.
The main thing I like about their products is their navigation and other built-in tools including code suggestions you wouldn't get in other products.
I have been using PhpStorm for the past 7 years now, started using it while being self-employed and I found the license cost absolutely reasonable. Usability, integrated features and extensibility are in my eyes way better than in any free or commercial tool. 0xDBE or now DataGrid is also great, it's nice to have one database IDE for multiple different DBMSs.
At my current company we use TeamCity and ReSharper for C# development and this greatly helped to improve code quality and the build process.
Ah yes, big fan of PhpStorm, but only if the business pays for it.
Otherwise VS Code all the way.
Just too expensive for me personally
From what I've seen from others using it, it looks like it often has performance issues. You're probably better off sticking to vscode. As a developer, I don't think the price really matters (for software I use which is free, I'll donate to the project).
From my experience VSCode is slower and consumes more resources than JetBrains products. And not even close in regard to functionality.
I don't use vscode or any jetbrain products, I'm just stating the experience of several others. They were using macbooks, could this be related?
Not sure, I've used macbook as well and haven't noticed any issues.
I have tried Rider once. But it was a 1-year license I got as a prize in a hackathon. Since Visual Studio was my favorite, I didn't try to spend money to renew the rider license.
IntelliJ - one of the best IDEs so far. its costly but its worth the price. I used it for Java projects. I have used Eclipse, Netbeans and IntelliJ all three for Java, J2EE projects. Loved IntelliJ out of these 3. It takes time to load the project initially but post that it works fast.
When I started learning Kotlin I needed to use IntelliJ IDEA. And when I started to learn Flutter/Dart I started using Android Studio which is built on JetBrains' IntelliJ IDEA software. So now i'm a fan of both however I have setup Visual Studio Code for Kotlin and Flutter/Dart projects. But its still easier to use JetBrains products for that type of development because you get more features and plugins.
I have used TeamCity, Pycharm, R#, Rider and Data Grip in the past. They are all excellent but I really enjoyed Data Grip more than the others.
Back in the days we migrated from Eclipse to IntellIJ because the Maven integration for Java was just less laggy.
Naturally when I switched to web development and was looking for an editor, I went with Webstorm.
Never regretted it and I can say that it is definitely worth the price to me. Even though VSCode is really slick, and for having it use a bit, I find the refactoring suite and the Git integration (resolving merge conflicts is almost easy) in Webstorm just more powerful.
That being said, I whish their was a plugin such as Peacok for it 😜.
Just noticed that you are also asking about non-editor tools of Jetbrains.
At a client company, they/we are still using Teamcity and I have to deal with it quite often. I have to say I don't like it much. Not a big fan of using Kotlin to describe pipelines and the web client is a bit outdated and consume so, much, RAM (why !???!?!).
Of course that's an opinionated answer as mine above about Webstorm. Still like you Jetbrains.
Also worth to notice, their support channel is really professional and quick to answer.
I keep telling myself to try the git element of phpstorm, but I never do. I think I'm just too used to the old way of manually checking conflicts.
Still, one day I will try it... .probably
I keep telling myself I should use more cmd lines, I even wrote a blog post about these I always forget 🤣
I use ReSharper and Rider, two of the best .Net tools on the market imo. I've also (in the past) used DotMemory and DotTrace - these are a litle more specialized but are really helpful for their use case.
Price vs value depends on how much you personally use their tools, I would say grab one of their free trials and give it a go, most of their editors are second to none.
I'm using IntelliJ Community edition, which is free. One of the best Java IDE's.
Also, I have purchased CLion for personal projects. So far this is the best IDE for C/C++/Rust.
I come from a JS background and have always used Atom and VS code, never really needed it, and found it pointless. Starting messing around with Java Spring boot recently and am really loving it now! Just takes some getting used to.
After Zend Studio (before the Eclipse version) and Netbeans, I work with phpStorm for several years now. Although I have never had to pay for the software myself, the tooling is so good, it will always win from the none IDE editors.
I've tried VS Code as well. But IMHO phpStorm is better, at least for the project I'm working on.
If phpstorm is best fit for you, I can't say. Just try. Use their trial version. Try VSCode as well. Perhaps try some other package. And then see for yourself if it's worth. Good look trying! :)
Yes, im trying to learn dotTrace. Its really hit or miss, and unfortunately their documentation isnt answering my questions.
Get in touch with them on their IDE specific twitter account. They are usually fast to respond, and quite helpful.
Every day. I spend my day coding with Phpstorm and use DataGrip for connecting to various database platforms. I spend a reasonable amount of time in PyCharm, too.
I love their products, and made it a condition of my employment that I use their tools. I didn't want to learn workarounds fr my existing workflow.
I've used YouTrack before and whilst I prefer GitLab for most things, the search on YouTrack vastly improved my workflow. It's just so powerful.
I don't think it's expensive. I pay £120 per year for their toolbox product. If £10 a month is too much for a stable, useful product set which works just about everywhere, then you need to question your value stream.
Sure, VS Code might be great. It might work just fine, or even excel in some areas. But I've never had an issue with JetBrains to make me want to try.
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