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Discussion on: 5 Absolutely FREE Projects YOU should do to become a Full Stack SUPERMAN/SUPERWOMAN before the 2021 ends !!!

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Ben Sinclair

I'm not a fan of phrases like this, like "rockstar" or "ninja", etc.
I'd like to comment on this particular one though: it's very gendered. It's very "bro".
I can't imagine anyone making a post called "How to become a full stack Wonder Woman" without raising eyebrows, so I'm going to raise my eyebrow at this one.

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Saeed Ahmad

BTW updated the title.

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Sooz Richman • Edited

Agreed. Superhero is a simple non-gendered replacement for the title. But so is rockstar. I was going to say "ninja" too but now I know that is a male gender name for someone of those skills after reading further in the comments.

Regardless, thanks for sharing the free tutorial info!

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Saeed Ahmad

Oh it's not like that. I just included the word 'Superman' to get maximum traction. Otherwise I think superman or superwoman both are equal and amazing.

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Steve

I giggled at this one a little. XD

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Saeed Ahmad

Hahaha. You can laugh too but that's how content writing works.

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Ben Sinclair

FWIW, if you're after traction, there are people like me who will stop reading after the launch of the first traction-seeking missile :)

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Saeed Ahmad

But I have updated the title. I think that makes sense.

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Maxim

Nah, that doesn't make sense for unicorns like the complainer who just wanna troll or push some "gender" agenda as far as they can, so I urge u (yeah, I know it might be too late) to completely ignore these BS complaints.

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Sinan P. = NP • Edited

Curious on why rockstar and ninja are gendered. There are a lot of female rock stars. Furthermore the data shows rock bands that include at least one female member are getting labels deals at 8 times the rate of all male rock bands. Female bands are also selling significantly more. I also know over 10 cases where the bands' record deals were revoked because a female member left the band purely out of personal decision and a shift in their interests. If anything there stars to be bias against males in the music industry. Can't speak to ninja as I don't know any male or female ninjas but if you are going to make such comments please do some research. Opinions are irrelevant and even dangerous on such sensitive subjects. We are not going to end sexism with speculations but with precise strikes to the source of the problem.

Edit: there were also a lot of female rock stars in the 80s, arguably the most misogynistic times of rock n roll so I don't know of time where rock star purely represented males.

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Ben Sinclair • Edited

Rock star and ninja aren't particularly gendered. What I was getting at was the trend a while ago for describing developers as something extraordinary, like "10x" or "guru" or something. The "superman" part was the gendered part. I was trying to convey that while I didn't like that type of term in general, it was the specific instance of being gendered that made it seem too much.
If we can't flip the genders and still be comfortable with the sentence, then something's up with it, and I think most people would find a title like, "10 ways to be Supergirl with Javascript" to seem clunky.

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Sinan P. = NP

Oh my bad. Apologies, I misunderstood. Yes I agree with you on the superman part and the whole idea behind that "10x" trend.

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Saeed Ahmad

Yeah I agree on that. I have updated the title name though. Supergirls are awesome by the way!

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Ben Calder

Supergirls are awesome by the way!

Great, but why "supergirls" and not "superwomen"? I see that at least you managed to use the latter in your revised title, but in your comments you're not demonstrating much awareness of the issue being raised here.

I'd recommend against all the click-bait superlatives and "we're all trying to be rock-star devs" nonsense. I gave up reading the article as soon as I got to "fullstack ninja". I came to the comments to say as much and saw someone already had.

For those who don't want to conform to the gendered, macho stereotypes you're perpetuating it is all very off-putting.

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Saeed Ahmad

Man! Every woman is a girl too. Why you people are hell-bent on proving someone wrong?

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BRNK

I'm amazed you didn't get "cancelled" from the internet. These whiney ass people have far too much time on their hands.

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kurisutofu

Well, if we take the literal Japanese term of ninja, it is gendered ;) A female ninja is called kunoichi :)

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Saeed Ahmad

Wuhooo. Thanks for info. I will use this term in future posts.