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Nick Steele

It's against the dev.to TOS to make derogatory comments/personal attacks. It's also mean. Please keep it civil and objective.

Blazor is C# in browsers. Therefore, objectively, ASP.NET is not Blazor and is not innovation in ASP.NET. Microsoft wants you to stop using ASP and switch to C#, because ASP is based off of the BASIC programming language, and is not a good choice to develop with.

They are literally completely different languages. Also, historically, every attempt to put another language into the browser has always failed. Please see Dart for a recent example. I'm not knocking Blazor, I'm pointing out it is not ASP, it is the recommended thing Microsoft is suggesting to make you stop using ASP. Those are different things.

Java has had more security flaws in it than every other language on Earth, combined. But I didn't say anything about Java.

PHP is outdated, yes :) If you think otherwise I would just like to end the conversation please.

Python, Go, Rust and Node are not outdated and I never said they were. Kind of weird you are using 3 exclamation points about a point I never made or felt.

I am not saying no innovation is happening in areas, but clearly, different amounts of innovation are happening in areas. Clearly, paying attention to where the most innovation is happening can be beneficial. If you disagree and think everything is equal or something like that, I understand, but I do not agree with you, and that is OK.

 
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David Domingo

First of all let me say that I did not mean to offend. I simply think you are wrong in a few aspects and I have had to deal with developers making comments like yours for many years. I used to do the same myself, specially when Rails was cool or when AngularJS was cool, but have learned from many mentors how dumb you might sound when you do it.

Nowadays ASP.NET is what the framework is called, not the language. As for Blazor, it is a way to create WebAssembly apps with ASP.NET Core.

I know you didn't mention Java and PHP. I simply assumed what your opinion would be on Java and PHP and wasn't far off, because I know your type, I used to say the same thing. What surprises me is that you don't consider Python to be outdated, which is a good thing, because it's not.

Java having had security flaws in the past is like saying Toyota cars have had safety flaws in the past. Doesn't mean it's outdated. It's far from it, specially with its new release schedule and having new languages like Kotlin compiling to Java bytecode.

PHP isn't outdate either. I'd recommend watching Rasmus' talk on the 25 years of PHP youtube.com/watch?v=wCZ5TJCBWMg. It's a great emotional talk.

Innovation is innovation, regardless of where it happens. I don't care where it comes from, if it teaches me something it's more than welcome.

 
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David Domingo

First of all let me say that I did not mean to offend. I simply think you are wrong in a few aspects and I have had to deal with developers making comments like yours for many years. I used to do the same myself, specially when Rails was cool or when AngularJS was cool, but have learned from many mentors how dumb you might sound when you do it.

Nowadays ASP.NET is what the framework is called, not the language. As for Blazor, it is a way to create WebAssembly apps with ASP.NET Core.

I know you didn't mention Java and PHP. I simply assumed what your opinion would be on Java and PHP and wasn't far off, because I know your type, I used to say the same thing. What surprises me is that you don't consider Python to be outdated, which is a good thing, because it's not.

Java having had security flaws in the past is like saying Toyota cars have had safety flaws in the past. Doesn't mean it's outdated. It's far from it, specially with its new release schedule and having new languages like Kotlin compiling to Java bytecode.

PHP isn't outdate either. I'd recommend watching Rasmus' talk on the 25 years of PHP youtube.com/watch?v=wCZ5TJCBWMg. It's a great emotional talk.

Innovation is innovation, regardless of where it happens. I don't care where it comes from, if it teaches me something it's more than welcome.

 
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David Domingo

First of all let me say that I did not mean to offend. I simply think you are wrong in a few aspects and I have had to deal with developers making comments like yours for many years. I used to do the same myself, specially when Rails was cool or when AngularJS was cool, but have learned from many mentors how dumb you might sound when you do it.

Nowadays ASP.NET is what the framework is called, not the language. As for Blazor, it is a way to create WebAssembly apps with ASP.NET Core.

I know you didn't mention Java and PHP. I simply assumed what your opinion would be on Java and PHP and wasn't far off, because I know your type, I used to say the same thing. What surprises me is that you don't consider Python to be outdated, which is a good thing, because it's not.

Java having had security flaws in the past is like saying Toyota cars have had safety flaws in the past. Doesn't mean it's outdated. It's far from it, specially with its new release schedule and having new languages like Kotlin compiling to Java bytecode.

PHP isn't outdate either. I'd recommend watching Rasmus' talk on the 25 years of PHP, It's a great emotional talk.

Innovation is innovation, regardless of where it happens. I don't care where it comes from, if it teaches me something it's more than welcome.