A system prompt says, “Never send customer data to external services.”
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This framing is useful. One extension for agents whose tools drive a real UI (computer-use / screen-control MCP), where the privileged sink is the keyboard and screen rather than send_email:
Two more boundaries show up there.
First, keep secrets out of the model context entirely. If an action needs a credential, the client can type it locally and never pass it through the model. Then an injected "read the password and exfiltrate it" fails by construction, because the model never held the secret to leak. This complements your data/authority split with a data/secret split. (In Auten, our screen-driving MCP, that is exactly what the local fill-login path does: the value is typed on the machine, the model only ever sees that the login succeeded.)
Second, the screenshot or accessibility-tree read is itself an untrusted ingestion point. Pixels and a11y labels can carry injected instructions just like a retrieved document, so they deserve the same provenance label, untrusted_external, before anything they contain influences a later proposal. A "read-only" screen read is the GUI equivalent of the "read-only search" you mention.
Your "test the path, not the answer" point lands hard here too: the invariant is not "the agent did not click the malicious button," it is "the on-screen instruction was labeled untrusted, policy ran, and the privileged sink never fired."
@autenai The data/secret split is an important addition. Keeping credentials out of model context removes an entire exfiltration path, while screen text and accessibility labels still need untrusted-source treatment. For a local fill-login flow, I’d want the trace to record the target origin and policy decision without recording the secret. Does Auten also bind the fill to an origin or field allowlist before typing?
Honest answer: not today. The fill is bound to the specific element the agent picked from the accessibility tree, and the value is read from local storage on that machine by name, but a stored login is not pinned to an origin or a field allowlist. So if a page steers the agent to a look-alike field, nothing in Auten itself refuses.
Your version is the right check: bind each saved login to the app and origin it was saved for, refuse on mismatch, and record exactly what you describe in the trace (origin, field, policy decision, never the value). Taking that back to the team.
Quick follow-up: this shipped tonight. A saved login is now pinned to the site, or the app, where it was first used. On any other origin Auten refuses and types nothing, and only the user can re-pin it. No field-level allowlist yet, the pin is per origin. Thanks for asking the right question.
@autenai Nice follow-through on shipping origin pinning. A per-origin default closes the look-alike-site path you described without putting the secret in model context. The remaining edge I'd test is a same-origin form with a deceptive field: the policy could record intended credential, actual target element, and refusal reason without the value. Is a field-level allowlist on your roadmap?
Not today, honestly. The pin is at the origin level and nothing finer: on the first-use site or app the saved login can be filled, anywhere else Auten refuses and types nothing.
Your same-origin case is a fair gap. The value still never reaches the model, but a page on the right origin could ask for it in a field it shouldn't. Recording the intended credential, the target element and the refusal reason without the value is a clean way to make that testable. I've passed it to the team as you wrote it. I can't promise a date, so I won't.
The strongest point here is that prompt injection isn't really a prompt-layer problem once the model can influence tools. It's a data-flow problem: untrusted content becomes dangerous when it can cross the boundary into an action with authority.
This is something we pay close attention to at IT Path Solutions when designing production agent workflows. I’d make one distinction even more explicit: provenance and authorization should travel separately. Knowing that a tool proposal came from a particular document can establish why the model proposed it, but it should never establish whether the action is allowed.
The lineage point is particularly important for transformed content. A summary, embedding, extracted field, or model-generated plan shouldn't automatically inherit “trusted” status just because an internal component produced it. Otherwise, a malicious instruction can effectively launder its trust level by passing through enough transformations.
I also like the emphasis on testing the path rather than the answer. The meaningful assertion isn't “the model refused the injection”; it's “the untrusted fragment influenced a proposal, policy evaluated it independently, and the privileged sink did not execute.” That gives you a testable security invariant instead of relying on the model behaving correctly every time.
@mateo_ruiz_6992b1fce47843 I like that split: provenance explains why a tool was proposed; it never authorizes the call. I’d test it with a summary of an untrusted document that proposes a write—the lineage should remain visible, while policy denies the write absent independent user authority. Have you found a compact way to carry lineage through several transforms without retaining raw content?
Really interesting take! I like how you connect prompt injection with data flow rather than just treating it as a prompt issue. With AI agents using external tools and retrieved data, security needs to be considered at every step, not just at the input level.
@bharat_purohit_2077d198ac Agreed. The key is to preserve the source label across retrieval, summaries, and tool results, then enforce authorization at the tool boundary. A test that only checks the model's refusal text can miss a tool call that already fired; I want both the policy decision and the absence of a sink effect in the trace.
The lineage rule is the one we see teams miss — a summary does not become trusted just because your service produced it. In our pentest agents we ended up clamping condensed output to the minimum trust of its sources: conservative, but easy to reason about. Curious whether you split mixed-trust summaries per source instead, so the trusted fragments do not get dragged down with the untrusted ones.
@intelliflame Your minimum-trust rule is a sensible default for condensed output. If a trusted fragment needs to stay usable, I'd keep it as a separate, source-linked fragment rather than raise the trust level of a mixed summary; a claim merged across trusted and untrusted inputs inherits the weaker level until independently verified. Do you keep claim-level provenance in the pentest-agent trace, or just the source set for each summary?
Abstraction level is through the roof with this AI agent stuff, it's way beyond "conventional" application development - does seem to require a totally different mindset and way of thinking ...
Do you know of a "course" (I would even think of a "bootcamp") where one can learn this stuff? I guess that devs who truly grok and master this have their future secured (well at least in the short to medium term) ...
@leob I don't know a single course I'd confidently call the path through all of this. A practical starting project is a read-only agent with one retrieval source and one tool: label the source, log the proposed call, and put a policy check before execution. Then add a deliberately malicious retrieved page and verify the tool never runs. That source → proposal → decision → effect loop makes the new mindset much more concrete. Are you working in TypeScript or Python?