I can see why you'd think that. It isn't unrelated. I sort of knew that the Remix guys were going to attempt to downplay partial hydration again. It isn't the first time. Expect the same for Streaming, or any other technology that doesn't start and end with React before React 18. So this seems timely but it's more I was prepared.
I think the biggest thing here is to have the language to talk about the work people have been doing. Whether or not I can convince someone of the merits of techniques developed by companies working at the largest scale is besides the point. After all it might not be worth any of the tradeoffs for someone's given app. But best know what those are.
We have people working on solutions in this space for years and there are slight differences in how everyone attacks the problem. The best way to cut through this is at least have the frame of reference to talk about these things.
This is a weird comment that assumes a lot about us?
I'm not trying to downplay anything. I'm genuinely interested in partial hydration, been anticipating doing it ourselves in Remix since the beginning. But we've gotten so far with progressive enhancement I'm now not sure there's much to improve, so I'm just looking for a well-designed demo that shows it beats PE before I go mess around with it.
Thanks for your concerns Ryan. I'm a bit annoyed by the situation and I let that show. We can talk some more about this in private. I have nothing but love for Remix.
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I can see why you'd think that. It isn't unrelated. I sort of knew that the Remix guys were going to attempt to downplay partial hydration again. It isn't the first time. Expect the same for Streaming, or any other technology that doesn't start and end with React before React 18. So this seems timely but it's more I was prepared.
I think the biggest thing here is to have the language to talk about the work people have been doing. Whether or not I can convince someone of the merits of techniques developed by companies working at the largest scale is besides the point. After all it might not be worth any of the tradeoffs for someone's given app. But best know what those are.
We have people working on solutions in this space for years and there are slight differences in how everyone attacks the problem. The best way to cut through this is at least have the frame of reference to talk about these things.
This is a weird comment that assumes a lot about us?
I'm not trying to downplay anything. I'm genuinely interested in partial hydration, been anticipating doing it ourselves in Remix since the beginning. But we've gotten so far with progressive enhancement I'm now not sure there's much to improve, so I'm just looking for a well-designed demo that shows it beats PE before I go mess around with it.
Nobody has one, I hope they do soon.
Thanks for your concerns Ryan. I'm a bit annoyed by the situation and I let that show. We can talk some more about this in private. I have nothing but love for Remix.