"which is why no on without a degree in CS or EE or CE has any business writing a single line of enterprise code"
This is crap.
I'm self taught and I started at age 33. A decade later I've written and refactored code in VB, C#, a little F# and a lot in SQL.
My highest formal educational qualification is a GCSE (Is that high school diploma in the usa?).
I've worked alongside CS degree holding coders of various standards and none of them have expressed the need for their degree in what they do.
Anything I don't know, I go and find excellent teachers online for: books, videos, Stackoverflow.
Given that various companies have relied on my work for their business, I would say in the real world a CS degree does not guarantee depth or quality of workmanship.
Patient, methodical learning, in depth is required along with a lot of real world experience.
It's the wrong gatekeeper qualification and many, many employers know this.
I've purposely avoided hide bound companies that mistakenly set this as a gold standard.
It is down to the individual to do a proper job of his or her studies.
Yes, a bootcamp, a short course, a little time with a book isn't a substitute for in depth study over an extended period.
But, to date, I've never ever felt a short coming from not wasting a fortune on a university course - especially not when the material they cover, one can easily obtain from a myriad of sources online as long as one is reasonably methodical about it.
Point of fact, with a little work, one can even just go right ahead and FIND all the various syllabuses these degrees cover, just to ensure you understand where your gaps are.
For example, no I can't write a compiler just now but given 99% of business scenarios are getting data, handling data, displaying data and handling user input, I don't see this as a weakness.
Perhaps you merely wanted to provoke discussion to be honest.
So, I'm provoked :P.
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"which is why no on without a degree in CS or EE or CE has any business writing a single line of enterprise code"
This is crap.
I'm self taught and I started at age 33. A decade later I've written and refactored code in VB, C#, a little F# and a lot in SQL.
My highest formal educational qualification is a GCSE (Is that high school diploma in the usa?).
I've worked alongside CS degree holding coders of various standards and none of them have expressed the need for their degree in what they do.
Anything I don't know, I go and find excellent teachers online for: books, videos, Stackoverflow.
Given that various companies have relied on my work for their business, I would say in the real world a CS degree does not guarantee depth or quality of workmanship.
Patient, methodical learning, in depth is required along with a lot of real world experience.
It's the wrong gatekeeper qualification and many, many employers know this.
I've purposely avoided hide bound companies that mistakenly set this as a gold standard.
It is down to the individual to do a proper job of his or her studies.
Yes, a bootcamp, a short course, a little time with a book isn't a substitute for in depth study over an extended period.
But, to date, I've never ever felt a short coming from not wasting a fortune on a university course - especially not when the material they cover, one can easily obtain from a myriad of sources online as long as one is reasonably methodical about it.
Point of fact, with a little work, one can even just go right ahead and FIND all the various syllabuses these degrees cover, just to ensure you understand where your gaps are.
For example, no I can't write a compiler just now but given 99% of business scenarios are getting data, handling data, displaying data and handling user input, I don't see this as a weakness.
Perhaps you merely wanted to provoke discussion to be honest.
So, I'm provoked :P.