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Why should boys have all the fun! 😜

ffalor • Aug 22 '19

Never thought of gender when I said postman. Also didn't know postman could only be used by males. (sarcasm aside) I think a unique name would make the service stand out more instead of making a statement.

Liyas Thomas • Aug 23 '19 • Edited

I don't want to gender-ify this service. I believe a name doesn't have that much influence on determining its scope or sucess. If you would like to suggest an alternative name, go on. I'm all hears.

Ghost • Aug 23 '19

I would be mildly annoyed if someone complain about postMAN, is the same with postWOMAN so keep the name, keep the good work; and if someone complains, who cares, in the web always someone is offended by something. After years in classrooms with almost 1% females still makes me happy to be able to talk nerdy and to a girl at the same time. (without sighs and eye rolls that is)

This is gold ✨

Sander Houttekier • Aug 23 '19

Let's not make it into a gender thing ... The only reason I would probably have gone with a different name is to avoid potential legal issues. It's directly derived from the same name as the product you took the original idea from. They might not be happy as commercial product with - I say in their eyes - a clone with a similar name trying to take away their business... That Alone is way more risky than the potential gender discussion the name might be calling for

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David Wickes • Aug 23 '19

a clone

I look forward to lawyers trying to claim copyright over making an HTTP request in the browser...

That will be a more serious issue than I thought.

Rename to Postie? Or even Getperson... 😄

Let's see what future brings

Litchi • Aug 23 '19

I love the name Postwoman, it's awesome and really caught my attention.

That's exactly what I had in mind. Let it help you on your development period.

Cristian Baluta • Aug 27 '19 • Edited

Me as an occasional user it's guaranteed i'll remember Postwoman. I don't like Postman because is using the gpu of my mac. But i'm wondering what are the limits, i know Postman is not web based because of some limitations.

Liyas Thomas • Aug 27 '19

Same here brother!

🦄N B🛡 • May 14 '20 • Edited

Tuppence time: I think it's a cute pun, and works well as an homage. Plus it opens the door wide for a vast array of inappropriate puns and silly jokes about Postman and Postwoman.

Like, what if there's an acquisition offer? The Register would (will?) have a field day.

And I'll just leave this here:

Only downside I can see is there might be some faffing around over copyright or people who take themselves too seriously taking the name too seriously. E.g. be prepared for the suggestions of "postwomyn" and whatnot.

Liyas Thomas • May 14 '20

NuxtJS, NextJS, NestJS.

Just saying.

Alexis Sánchez • Aug 23 '19

I think the names are not antagonist each other, and as I understood wasn't a "political statement" I believe was more a "cachi" name, at the end, I think in the real word postman and now postwoman will complement each other in the dev world, as should be with everything

I love positive people like you.

lesha 🟨⬛️ • Aug 27 '19 • Edited

I don't want to gender-ify this service.

But you've just did...

I believe a name doesn't have that much influence on determining its scope or sucess.

Entire companies have been born for sole purpose of inventing product branding, which includes creating an appealing name.

For many people "postwoman" is just a swing in likes of "take that, MEN" which i find, how millenials are caling it, problematic.

P.s. I believe "man" in "postman" stands for "person", not as "male"

Liyas Thomas • Aug 27 '19

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this.

daveclarke • Nov 27 '19

I foresee a name change in your near future. If Postman has received significant venture capital then they’re obliged to protect their brand. And they could have chosen a gender neutral name like Postie so we’ll done for calling them out on their name, even if not deliberate. I habit been aware that Postman uses Electron - good to know, thank you.

Liyas Thomas • Nov 27 '19

I don't think there's a problem with this name.

🦄N B🛡 • May 14 '20

Thanks for giving us all your perspective.

Ashish Kamble • Dec 10 '19

great

rineesh ch • Nov 9 '23

Great

Adam Crockett 🌀 • Aug 22 '19

I get the name but be the bigger person, this should be post person 😅

Noah Ginsburg • Aug 22 '19

In comparison to postman, I think the idea is to be the smaller one 😉

No clue if that was intentional, but it definitely works lol

Minimalism and keeping things simple has been one of my prior concern.

Ryan Couch • Aug 22 '19

That should be the SOAP version, why should rest APIs get all the love

Adam Crockett 🌀 • Aug 24 '19

I confess I have not really looked into SOAP at all... I must stink.

🦄N B🛡 • May 14 '20

No lye.

Adam Crockett 🌀 • May 14 '20

😣 dad joke quality puns 🤣

Phil Albu • Aug 24 '19

SOAP == 🤢

😂😉

🦄N B🛡 • May 14 '20

Why not just change the HTTP verb?

Charles Anim • Aug 23 '19

This is pretty cool. I like the name a lot. I'm going to be diving more into the source code, and hopefully, I'll find some time to contribute.

Also, do you only intend to keep this super minimal or looking to add some few "minimal" bells and whistles in the future?

I'm always open to suggestions. Everyone's opinion counts. Feel free to contribute and share your thoughts on improving Postwoman.

Eric Flores • Aug 23 '19

You only changed half the name. What about the first part? We don't only use it for POST. We also use it for GET and PUT (and more). Getwoman sounds too out of place. So I would suggest Putwoman. That gets you out of trouble with the the Postman people.

Renaming the platform is currently scheduled for future. After stable release. Anyway suggestions are welcomed.

Charles Anim • Aug 23 '19

i sure will, maybe you should submit this app to Product hunt to get more eyes on it.

Actually, I made a post on Product Hunt. Share some love 🔥✨

Charles Anim • Aug 24 '19

Lol I did too. Should I take mine down?

I hope you gave proper credit for me, and didn't changed any contents.

Sdu • Aug 22 '19

I love this! Here's a quick thought, I didn't research this but what are implications of having server side to proxy a http request? Like a free tier on zeit.co where a requests can be handled by a lambda function and results are sent back to the client side. Full disclaimer, I googled once and got this idea so it's not something I'm proud of.

Andrew Bastin • Aug 22 '19

Umm yeah, a proxy system is something this site might need at some point. As the client side CORS policies kinda break the app (just try sending a request to google.com).

There is an active discussion going on here.

I am really loving contributing to this project.

Will surely consider your advice. Stay tuned for future updates 🐱‍💻

Oliver Janik • Aug 23 '19

While I applaud the effort, this can't be more than just a toy until it drops browser sandbox like Postman or Insomnia did. You can't deal with CORS, browser hides cookies from you, applies HSTS and other cross-origin restrictions. Good luck!

Thanks for your concern, consider making a contribution or suggestions to make Postwoman better ❤️

🦄N B🛡 • May 14 '20 • Edited

this can't be more than just a toy until it drops browser sandbox like Postman or Insomnia did. You can't deal with CORS, browser hides cookies from you, applies HSTS and other cross-origin restrictions. Good luck!

Now hold your unicors, there, how sure are you that those restrictions aren't features?

Shauna Gordon • Aug 26 '19

So build a client that doesn't rely on Electron.

Liyas Thomas • Aug 27 '19

That's was my primary aim, but as you've noticed project Postwoman had gained momentum in GitHub and we rewrote a-z into Vue Nuxt which made it faster, lighter and efficient than any other projects in its category.

Oru kind supporters brought domains postwoman.net and postwoman.io which are currently serving GitHub pages directly and will be published to the world for free on Postwoman v1.0 stable release. We need support from guys like you for the next big thing to happen. Postwoman will be a fully transparent open source project, free of cost for all.

Andrea • Jul 25 '20

Hi there!
Just a side question:
what driving factors made you chose Vue instead of other front end frameworks?
I ask this because Postwoman seems promising and getting traction, so that it's interesting to learn about the tech choices behind it.
Thanks in advance!
P.S. "Postwoman" is really a funny and well thought name imho

Liyas Thomas • Jul 25 '20

Actually, this is my first Vue project. I wanted to learn Vue. And "learn by doing a project" is my way of learning. That why I choose Vue.

** The initial prototype was built in a night. And I didnt had a second thought on naming.

Liyas Thomas • Aug 22 '19 • Edited

Star and contribute to the project on GitHub 💚

UPDATE: Added History support with session storage 👌
UPDATE: Added URL validation 🔍

Huge thanks to all the contributors 🤗

João Guimarães • Aug 22 '19

i will be glad to help in any way possible

Wilson Silva • Aug 22 '19

Have you seen insomnia.rest?

Yes. I did a background check on prevailing such implementations. Insomnia is packed with similar features of Postman, but I want Postwoman to be minimal and beautiful.

KP • Sep 13 '19

@liyasthomas I know I'm getting to this a bit late but I have to commend you, this is awesome work and I love the name. I'm not a lawyer but I don't think you need to be too worried about any potential legal issues if this is a FOSS project and the name falls under "satire" :D

Anyway, I love that you're using Nuxt.js...curious whether you have a back-end at all, and whether I can DM you? You of all people seem to know how to implement the Authorization grant token (oauth flow using Nuxt for social login) and I'd love to pick your brain on this.

Liyas Thomas • Sep 13 '19 • Edited

I would love have a conversation with you. You can DM me here or I'm available on Twitter @liyasthomas.

Glad you liked the project. Thanks for your suggestions on legal issues. Later, I came to know that there are thousands of projects which even sounds similar and does pretty much the same thing.

Currently, we don't have a backend at all. I made it fully transparent, we don't even do analytics, logging or accept any user/client informations. I believe in "free for all" philosophy. Currently we're focusing on its growth. Adding essential features such as workspace sharing, auth, collections etc and encouraging people to use it. Making it popular or should I say, letting people know that there exists a service that has everything for API testing and its free and open source.

I believe your contributions to the project on GitHub will be an asset for us. Please consider contributing and share the love with a text, tweet or talk. Looking forward for your response.

KP • Sep 13 '19 • Edited

Thanks @liyasthomas . I just starred the project on Github...amazing that you're focused on it's growth above all else. I will definitely be using postwoman and report any issues / improvements I find.

Right now I'm focused on a problem dealing with Auth in Nuxt (Social oAuth using the Authorization Grant token, to be specific). Is this something you would know about and can help point me in the right direction on? My DMs on DEV are also open if that's easier...do you want to follow me back / send a message so we can connect and talk further?

P.J. Villaruel • Aug 23 '19

Postman and Postwoman after living in for quite a while, had a big fight, and returned to their parent's house. Thus, the Boomerang was created. chrome.google.com/.../eipdnjedkpcn......

Hossein Nedaee • Sep 6 '19

Because Postman runs slowly on my laptop so I decided to test your Postwoman, and it's so light and cool.
Thank you. I hope it becomes better.
I'd like to contribute it, but I didn't contribute yet on any open source projects.

Liyas Thomas • Sep 6 '19 • Edited

Everybody was once a beginner.
Fork it, make your contributions/fix current issues, make a pull request. Thats it.

There's always a first ✨

Hossein Nedaee • Sep 6 '19

Thanks.

Khalid • Nov 23 '19

Its very good ,
Its open source i think its mean any one from anywhere can access it and used, But I can't open the site without a VPN
I residents in Sudan

Liyas Thomas • Nov 23 '19 • Edited

Oh! I wonder why would that happen! May be some domains are excluded from your country (.io)? If you see an error code, please let me know. A screenshot would've been great!

Khalid • Nov 24 '19 • Edited

It stuck like this but when I open a VPN it'll open,
I think its from the hosting company

Liyas Thomas • Nov 24 '19

Let me look up to it

Khalid • Nov 24 '19

i tried it now on pc and this is what chrome showed me

"This site can’t be reachedpoatwoman.io’s server IP address could not be found.
Search Google for postwoman io
ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED"

Liyas Thomas • Nov 24 '19

postwoman.io
If the above link fails, use postwoman.web.app

Khalid • Nov 24 '19

This works ,
Thank you

Donald • Aug 22 '19

I can register a domain and donate that. I use a lot of VMs for development, so I don't like to use Electron apps too much. Haven't used it yet, but I do have hosting I don't really use for anything.

I would love to consider this offer 😍😍😍

Anyway, I love GitHub and believe a good open source project doesn't require a domain. People will love the service just the way it is. Right now, I'm really curious about Postwoman because of your support and love. Currently I need some time to figure out how much Postwoman can help my fellow devs. I would love to have a talk with you. I'm available on Twitter @liyasthomas.

I love open source. For more than 4 years I've been working on open source, while living off savings. I'm on PayPal now as my savings are slowly running out & I need your help to continue my efforts 💖

Donald • Aug 23 '19

I don't have Twitter anymore, but I went ahead and sent something via PayPal. My DMs here should be open, though.